off we go again.

Posted by: Slogger

off we go again. - 14/09/14 09:35 PM

Making another 5 day attempt starting early Tuesday 16th Sept.
Legs are feeling a bit better although Ive had no chance to rest them with work and decorating since my last failed bid.
Will just have to see how it goes but am going to try and be more positive like i usually am and bury the ghost of last time.
Weather looks to be not so bad although the daylight hours are becoming shorter and shorter.
I will post a link to my 'Tracker' for live tracking should anyone be interested.
Cheers Dave.
Posted by: Slogger

Re: off we go again. - 14/09/14 09:41 PM

Link to my SPOT Tracker:- http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0U2BnqgSEH8sXHLq3Kl6GxAKDLBQz5eos
Dave.
Posted by: Harland

Re: off we go again. - 14/09/14 09:54 PM

Good luck. I'll be watching your progress, sitting in my chair, amazed at both your physical and mental strength.
Posted by: lightweightmick

Re: off we go again. - 14/09/14 10:11 PM

Direct line or more Wainwright this time Dave?
Posted by: Slogger

Re: off we go again. - 15/09/14 08:35 AM

Thinking of trying to stay with the AW route as much as possible, but maybe with the High Raise alternative as last time. All depends on how the legs and heel are.
Had a blood test a couple of weeks after last attempt and it did show that I was once again slightly Anemic. Ive been taking an iron supplement since.
I may also update via Twitter.
Cheers, Dave.
Posted by: Slogger

Re: off we go again. - 15/09/14 08:37 AM

Harland, I hope it keeps you entertained. Knowing you and others will be watching will help drive me on.
Dave.
Posted by: Les + Heidi

Re: off we go again. - 15/09/14 10:56 AM

Good luck Dave
Heidi and I will be watching too
Les
Posted by: lightweightmick

Re: off we go again. - 15/09/14 02:04 PM

Well good luck with this one Dave - hope the feet hold up better this time. No doubt you'll spur me on again as I'm currently tweaking up my previous line, though I'm only up to 5 milers in training plan yet so far - no chance of a good effort this year for me,
all the best
mick
Posted by: lightweightmick

Re: off we go again. - 15/09/14 08:59 PM

yikes, it's tomorrow... why was I thinking it was next week?
Posted by: Harland

Re: off we go again. - 16/09/14 09:44 AM

Nothing showing yet, he was going to start early today. Hopefully just an IT issue.
Posted by: lightweightmick

Re: off we go again. - 16/09/14 11:01 AM

...nothing on his Facebook page. Been trying an extra digit in case last digit was accidentally clipped off in posting as the feed looked a tad shor ter than the last feed iD given.
Maybe something cropped up last minute and the feed needs SPOT to be switched on to activate that iD.
I'll check twitter... though have car to mend, work to be done and an Orange to contact...
Posted by: lightweightmick

Re: off we go again. - 16/09/14 11:06 AM

from twitter yesterday:
'Off on another 5 day attempt of the Coast to Coast walk starting tomorrow'
Posted by: lightweightmick

Re: off we go again. - 16/09/14 11:14 AM

He has a Facebook page for work with phone number on van which goes to answerphone... sorry Dave - didn't leave a message
Posted by: DodgeyKnee

Re: off we go again. - 16/09/14 01:54 PM

I got 'file not found' ??
Posted by: lightweightmick

Re: off we go again. - 16/09/14 07:21 PM

Phew, just got in... spent last 7 hrs down at garage! - looks like car had a faulty coil - as fitting another coil seems to have cured it...

So Dave could be at Patterdale or not set off then..?

Just tried his work no. again - his answer phone message says he won't be returning calls till Monday, so probably not changed his plans. Looks then as though the SPOT link is bad..? or maybe device is not sending signals..?
Could be he's a had a transport issue and postponed till tomorrow though. Fingers crossed...
Posted by: lightweightmick

Re: off we go again. - 19/09/14 10:31 AM

Well, Dave could be at Grosmont now... if his feet held out I reckon, just from experience, he'll knock a few hours off his previous and could be in the Bay by 3pm... dunno though, just guesswork really...
Posted by: Slogger

Re: off we go again. - 19/09/14 05:20 PM

No afraid I'm not at Gromont but back home, again!
Blog to follow, but basically bad ball of foot blisters put paid to success in Gunnerside yesterday. I was not going to risk 10 or more days off work, like what resulted from the same thing, during my first sub 5 day crossing.
I have sent a query as to why the 'Tracker' link did not work, however they updated their website on the day I set out, so may be due to that.
Dave.
Posted by: Harland

Re: off we go again. - 19/09/14 05:39 PM

Bad luck, however a sensible decision which I know will have been difficult to make. My only complaint is that I had to watch TV and not your progress!
Posted by: lightweightmick

Re: off we go again. - 19/09/14 11:27 PM

What are you like Dave..? You had us going there mate.
I suppose once you get your unique link ID that's it? ...or is there any way to test it out the day before setting off?
Tracking would be the main reason I'd want to have the SPOT and would be well miffed if the link was duff after shelling out over a hundred quid as I'd probably only use it once in a 12 month period.
Anyway, glad you made it home safe and look forward to your thoughts,
cheers
mick
Posted by: Slogger

Re: off we go again. - 20/09/14 03:28 PM

http://sloggerssecondc2c2014.blogspot.co.uk/
Posted by: Howie

Re: off we go again. - 20/09/14 11:01 PM

Passed a bloke this morning on St Bees cliff tops finishing off after doing a East to West crossing and he said he had just passed the 8 day mark as he started to walk along the cliffs, he also said he passed a bloke a few days ago who was hoping to do a 5 day crossing which I took it to be you Dave,he said you told him you were behind schedule and you did not know if you could make the time up,sorry you had to abort the walk with your blisters.
Posted by: Slogger

Re: off we go again. - 21/09/14 04:39 PM

Yes Howie, there were not many traveling the other way. The guy you mention is almost certainly the one I met just after Hawswater close to Highpark building. He too carried an Osprey sac. He told me he had done the national 3 peaks and walked in between, a total of 600 miles. He also looked to be of similar age to myself but retired.
Dave.
Posted by: Slogger

Re: off we go again. - 21/09/14 04:55 PM

The blisters have dried up (well mostly) and are hardly hurting now. Ive had my feet on ice packs to bring the inflammation down. I shall decide in the next day or so whether to excavate them or not.
The really annoying thing is that my left knee is really sore. I twisted it before the off whilst decorating and thought that it was better after a few days. However my Hamstring tendons behind my knee have been strained and they are very tight and sore which has also set the knee off again.
Reaching the overhead luggage rack for my sack. A guy in the seat I had to reach over decided to get up as I was just taking the weight, forcing me slightly to one side. I immediately felt a heavy 'Twang' in the tendons behind my knee, and limped off the train. Damn typical, I thought.
We went back to Grasmere today to recover some gear that I had left at the B&B there, everything in the wash now.
Dave.
Posted by: Slogger

Re: off we go again. - 21/09/14 06:11 PM

Just updated my blog with some additions and better description.
Dave.
http://sloggerssecondc2c2014.blogspot.co.uk/
Posted by: Howie

Re: off we go again. - 21/09/14 09:16 PM

Yes Dave that was the same guy, he was carrying a Osprey rucksack I think it was green & grey, he told me he packed work in in 2002, sold his house and car, he said it took some nerve when he handed his house keys over to the estate agent and sort of lives on the move. Pleased to hear your blisters are on the mend.
Posted by: lightweightmick

Re: off we go again. - 21/09/14 11:02 PM

wow, talk about 'living the dream'! Did he have a motorhome or caravan or just footloose?
Posted by: Slogger

Re: off we go again. - 22/09/14 08:56 AM

Could you let me know of this link to my SPOT tracker works.
https://login.findmespot.com/spot-main-web/myaccount/locations/history.html
Posted by: Harland

Re: off we go again. - 22/09/14 09:25 AM

Originally Posted By: Slogger
Could you let me know of this link to my SPOT tracker works.
https://login.findmespot.com/spot-main-web/myaccount/locations/history.html


When I access the site it shows that I need to input my User name and password. So, no it doesn't work. The previous link last week just said that it didn't recognise your tracker link.
Posted by: Slogger

Re: off we go again. - 22/09/14 05:30 PM

Ok thanks for that, how about this:
http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0Vb9imKc3A4bCiWrXbZEIqMG6ZEkDpcla
Posted by: Harland

Re: off we go again. - 22/09/14 08:03 PM

That works, did you just walk around your house!
Posted by: lightweightmick

Re: off we go again. - 22/09/14 09:35 PM

ha ha, tried mine out today... wouldn't get GPS signal in house and seems to take ages outside to find satellites. At least I've learnt that when the 2 LED's flash out of sync there's no signal. It seems holding down the 'OK tick' button for 5 seconds switches on/off tracking..? (shows red when switching off...)
Posted by: Slogger

Re: off we go again. - 23/09/14 08:52 AM

Sussed out what happened, I forgot to set it to allow viewing of 'messages'. 'Messages are the 'locations' the balloon positions on Google maps.
Yes Mick for 'Tracking' after pressing the on button and it flashes, you press the OK button and that light comes on. You continue to press it until that light goes out (approx 5 seconds) it will then start searching fir satellites. Sometimes it gets them almost right away other times it can take up to 30 minutes. When it loses the signal, in heavy forest, tunnels in building etc, the on light flashes intermittently, but will begin searching again, once out in the open, until it relocates the satellites.
In the Trial, I left it outside on the decking.
Dave.
Posted by: Howie

Re: off we go again. - 23/09/14 08:33 PM

Mick, I think the bloke I passed finishing off the Coast to Coast East to West was just footloose, he said he just camped, used the odd bothie and the odd B&B when he was on the move,but when he was not on the move he stayed with his niece.
Posted by: Harland

Re: off we go again. - 23/09/14 09:27 PM

Although slightly different it reminded me of a note I wrote in one of my journals a few years ago:-

I remember seeing a "gentleman of the road", more commonly called "a tramp", at the end of my road some years ago sitting on the grass patch just resting. At the time I thought about him as I had seen him over the other side of the Pennines a year or so previously near Preston. He was somewhat unkempt with long grey hair and a long beard. By the look of it he had quite a few overcoats on despite the weather, however he looked a nice old man. I always wished that I had stopped and had a chat but I was in a rush to get somewhere in the car. Such a different life to mine at the time but I must admit to thinking that he had a very uncluttered and simple albeit, in my terms, a hard life. I hope that he was happy but I did, I think, envy the free life he had to go whenever and wherever he wanted by foot. Perhaps the enjoyment I get out of long distance walking has something to do with those thoughts.
Posted by: Les + Heidi

Re: off we go again. - 24/09/14 10:51 AM

Sorry to hear about the blisters Dave, but as you say it was a great 2.5 days walk to get that far.

Are you still wearing the Hedgehogs ? I got a new pair recently, the latest spec which is lighter than before but to me they dont seem as comfortable under foot, less cushioning.
Pity as I really like they previous ones.
Posted by: Slogger

Re: off we go again. - 24/09/14 04:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Les + Heidi
Sorry to hear about the blisters Dave, but as you say it was a great 2.5 days walk to get that far.

Are you still wearing the Hedgehogs ? I got a new pair recently, the latest spec which is lighter than before but to me they dont seem as comfortable under foot, less cushioning.
Pity as I really like they previous ones.


Hi Les & Heidi,
Yes I wore my red Hedgehogs which I wore during both Spine races with Sorbothane double strike insoles. No blisters at all during the Spine(s). These were not surface friction blisters but deep ball of foot ones caused by deep sheer forces beneath metatarsal heads. I think this time, especially as they started to manifest so early on, was wrong sock choice, which gave my feet too much room to move about inside combined with the heat of day and moving at an average 3.5 mph as far as Black Sail. Ive always found on the long distance ones that if I average 3 mph I am prone to blisters forming whereas at 2.5 mph I am not. No heel blisters though.
I am going to get anew pair of hedgehogs soon but will inspect first due to your comments, cheers.
Did you get to do your C2C?
Dave.
Posted by: Les + Heidi

Re: off we go again. - 25/09/14 03:48 PM

Hi Dave
Work got in the way of the C2C Im afraid so its deferred for the time being, we've had a few nice weekends away this year (Derbyshire, Exmore and Dartmoor) on top of our local stuff in the Chilterns but no multi-day walks Im afraid.
Will be interested in your view on the new hedgehogs, they are noticeably lighter but I can feel the stones through them more than the previous model. I use green superfeet with mine though which are getting on a bit so maybe its those that have degraded. I can't really get the double strikes inside and still have the volume to avoid rubbing on the tops of my toes.
Les
Posted by: Slogger

Re: off we go again. - 25/09/14 07:08 PM

I get mine (for distance walking) a full size bigger than normal and my normal size is at the roomy end. I don't like, or I should say my feet don't like anything near tight or confined. They complain even if my socks are on the close fitting side. hence my shoes are always slightly loose. Ive run and walked for years in loose shoes, on road and over the fells. The only time Ive tightened them up was for XC racing.
That's how I made my error with the socks. They were too thin and my feet were slopping about in the shoes, I'll have to get a few more pairs of Thorlo Treckers, my favourite. Problem is I always place a Compeed under the ball of foot and this ruins the socks.
This last time I also taped over the Compeed but somehow they moved to the side of my feet and still got the socks gooey.
Good to hear you got out even if not C2C.
Dave.
Posted by: Slogger

Re: off we go again. - 06/10/14 01:55 PM

Hi Les & Heidi,
Ive just purchased another pair of Hedghogs. As you say Les, lighter in weight, however the Vibram sole remains unchanged. I will have to get a new pair of Sorbothane D/S to go with them.
Dave.
Posted by: Les + Heidi

Re: off we go again. - 12/10/14 03:43 PM

Maybe its me Dave, the cushioning doesnt seen as good, I can feel stones underfoot more. I use green superfeet in mine though so maybe they have seen better days and are causing the problem.
Les
Posted by: Les + Heidi

Re: off we go again. - 12/10/14 03:45 PM

Maybe its me Dave, the cushioning doesnt seen as good, I can feel stones underfoot more. I use green superfeet in mine though so maybe they have seen better days and are causing the problem. My local supplier of superfeet doesnt stock them anymore so I'll need to find some on line and give that a go.
Les
Posted by: Slogger

Re: off we go again. - 12/10/14 10:46 PM

Too soon to tell for me Les, as Ive not tested them out really. The uppers are defo of lighter weight material and first impression is they are not upper supportive as their previous.
As Spine training has now begun with a 10 miler yesterday averaging 4mph on the flat canal path, I will soon give them a good grounding, so we will see.
Dave.
Posted by: Les + Heidi

Re: off we go again. - 13/10/14 11:34 AM

Let us know what you think once you've given them a good work out Dave, and good luck with the training
Posted by: Slogger

Re: off we go again. - 20/10/14 12:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Les + Heidi
Let us know what you think once you've given them a good work out Dave, and good luck with the training


Ive now worn them on a training walk of around 10 miles and yesterday up hill and down dale whist supporting our club runners at the British Fell Relay Championships.
I think you are probably right Les, they do feel harder under foot even with Sorbothane Double Strike insoles. I have e mailed North face to ask if they have altered the shoes mid sole.
Dave.
Posted by: Les + Heidi

Re: off we go again. - 20/10/14 03:23 PM

Glad its not just me Dave, will be interested to hear what they say.
Posted by: Slogger

Re: off we go again. - 23/10/14 03:31 PM

Les, I asked them if they had altered the Mid-sole in the shoe. Their reply is that they haven't, so I will have to persevere. I know the ones that I have had, have always required quite a bit of breaking inn.
A pal has just got a pair of these, and gives them a good report straight out of the box, so I am considering these too.
http://www.sportsshoes.com/product/hok60/hoka-tor-speed-wp-trail-running-shoes-~-aw14/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=price_comparison&utm_campaign=googlebase-uk&gclid=CjwKEAjwzqKiBRCAydTZzOLi9CISJACm3irWHxaeCVN_lSaOl8x7-mjj6rEtxE9gAO4W26ikm-V0XRoCHZbw_wcB
Dave.
Posted by: Slogger

Re: off we go again. - 23/10/14 03:33 PM

Didn't work, try this:-
http://www.gearweare.com/review/hoka-one-one-tor-high-wp-boot/
Posted by: Slogger

Re: off we go again. - 23/10/14 03:36 PM

Just remembered what you said Les about toe box height. The Hoka's would probably suite you afterall as the toe box is height is on the low side.
Posted by: Slogger

Re: off we go again. - 23/10/14 03:36 PM

wouldN'T.
Posted by: Les + Heidi

Re: off we go again. - 23/10/14 04:05 PM

Hi Dave
I'd have put money on them saying that, they never admit to anything but its odd that they feel softer to both of us. I used to like that slight stiffness in the old style ones.

The Hokka shoes look interesting, anything with extra cushioning underfoot is well worth a look in my book, thanks for the tip. I've taken to taping the high points on my middle toes with all footware when walking now, just as a precaution really and for extra protection for when my feet swell late on in the day.

Another shoe Ive seen mentioned alot in the US through hiking blogs etc is Brooks Cascadia 8 and 9, seems very popular with the ultra long distance hikers (even though they are originally a running shoes). Im not sure how to do a link but Google with final lots of reviews etc.

Les
Posted by: Slogger

Re: off we go again. - 23/10/14 09:37 PM

Oh, I don't know now. If you look at my earlier post Les, I said they felt harder to me not softer. Mind you my feet are not much to go by these days. I'm going on a walk with another Spine guy tomorrow night from Standedge to the White House and back, but I'm going to get some miles in first the other way, maybe as far as Black Hill and back to Standedge to meet up. That will give me a better idea on them.
Dave.
Posted by: Les + Heidi

Re: off we go again. - 24/10/14 03:57 PM

TGO have just run a review of Innov-8 new 'race ultra' that Chris Townsend thinks will make a great back packing shoe.
Hopefully this link may work !!

http://tgomagazine.co.uk/gearreview/new-first-look-review-inov-8-race-ultra-290-shoes
Posted by: Slogger

Re: off we go again. - 25/10/14 02:59 PM

They could be worth investigating.
I did the walk last night. I arrived at the rv later than planned so only had time to walk to Black Moss reservoir and back before the 15 mile round trip to White House. The guy I went with is an ex Fell runner too but 14 years younger than myself. We set a really good pace in the dark and were there and back inside of 5 hours carrying the full Spine kit.
Here's the dilemma with my new Hedghogs, Got to the White House with no ill effects. We had a brief stop of around 10 minutes. As soon as we set off on our way back, my left foot PF flared up again with my heel quite sore. It progressively became worse with the shoe feeling very hard underfoot (Sorbothane Double Strike insoles in place). After a couple of miles my outer foot became painful, as had happened on numerous occasions before. Usually follows the heel pain. Also as usual this outer foot pain became more of a problem than the heel pain. I could only ignore the discomfort and carry on at the good pace we were setting. Back at the car, it was really bad as it was this morning, but has now eased off some.
My right foot however was comfy the whole time, so I can only put my problems with the shoes down to my continuing PF.
The other guy was wearing his new Hoka mid boots and says he is really impressed by them and he will using them during his Spine Challenger.
Dave.
Posted by: Slogger

Re: off we go again. - 25/10/14 03:01 PM

Got my rights and left in the wrong order. My right foot is the one with PF.