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#2929 - 11/11/06 08:33 PM Hemsley
Oldun Offline
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Registered: 01/12/04
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Loc: Renens, Vaud, Switzerland
Got a problem. The CW kicks off in Hemsley and all the guide books tell you what to do when you get to Hemsley, but nothing tells you how to get there.

From the map it looks like getting a train to either York or Thirsk, then a taxi.

The same thing looks like getting from Filey. I can't see any train lines on the map. Is it a taxi from Filey to York?

Transport to and from start/finish lines looks like being expensive.

Any suggestions,please?

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#2930 - 11/11/06 09:33 PM Re: Hemsley
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Registered: 07/05/06
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Loc: Stafford
Oldun. Forget about HEMSLEY, it doesn't exist. It's HELMSLEY you're after, but that's at the back of beyond. You had best head for Filey which has a railway station on the Hull - Scarborough line with about nine trains each way each weekday. If you walk from Filey to Helmsley and back again then you won't need to bother about taxis ( not that I, who earns a living driving taxis, should be suggesting that ).

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#2931 - 11/11/06 10:02 PM Re: Hemsley
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Now THAT admission explains a lot!
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#2932 - 12/11/06 04:20 AM Re: Hemsley
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Loc: Stafford
Yes, Sammy, that's always my intention. But in case Oldun doesn't want the pleasure of walking it both ways, here's some more information ;
Helmsley is 14 miles from THIRSK station ( about 18 trains each way each weekday, hourly through most of the day, between Manchester Airport and Middlesborough or Newcastle, but none direct for the 211 miles from or to Kings Cross on the East Coast Main Line ) which does not have a taxi rank or cab office but is served by 'SCS' on 01845 524358, 'Dales' on 01845 522745 and 'Prices' on 01845 522709 with a fare of about 22.
Helmsley is also a mile or two further away from MALTON station ( about 15 trains each way each weekday, hourly through most of the day, between Liverpool Lime Street or Manchester Airport / Piccadilly and Scarborough ) whch has a cab office on 01653 696969 and is also served by 'Rydale' on 01653 600026 and '121' on 01653 690121 with a fare of about 24.

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#2933 - 12/11/06 09:09 AM Re: Hemsley
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Loc: Renens, Vaud, Switzerland
Thanks LL. Clearly, getting to Helmsley presents some logistic problems, as my airport is limited to EastMidlands. From there I can get a train, via York, to Malton, from where I can get a taxi. However, travel schedules would make my arrival in Helmsley very late at night.

I am presently reviewing all options.

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#2934 - 12/11/06 10:26 AM Re: Hemsley
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Loc: Stafford
Oldum, Yes, East Midlands is one of the worst airports for public transport. Long Eaton, at about 8 miles or a 13 taxi fare, is the nearest railway station but you would be better going straight to Derby, 14 miles and a 22 taxi fare away. From Derby there are plenty of Midland Main Line trains to York, but make time to stop off first at the Brunswick and Alexandra pubs just a few minutes walk from Derby station.

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#2935 - 13/11/06 03:41 PM Re: Hemsley
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Registered: 24/11/04
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Loc: Billingham,Cleveland
It's a pity you are not coming into Durham/Tees valley Airport (formerly known as Teesside Airport),because if the time was right I would have gladly ferried you from there to Helmsley.
Nimrod

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#2936 - 13/11/06 05:11 PM Re: Hemsley
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Nimrod, Lets hope his plane is diverted from East Midlands to Teesside due to fog, hijacking or some other circumstance.

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#2937 - 13/11/06 07:57 PM Re: Hemsley
tim smith Offline
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Registered: 28/10/06
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Loc: england
hI Oldun,
i have a book here by Malcolm Boyes
tittle ''the Cleveland way and the Missing Link'' the missing link is a route on the south of the North York moors, from Scarborough to Helmsley and if you walked the circuit you could start at Scarbborough and finish up back at Scarborough.
you are welcome to borrow the book if you like
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#2938 - 13/11/06 08:23 PM Re: Hemsley
Oldun Offline
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Loc: Renens, Vaud, Switzerland
Hi Tim. Thanks for the offer. Sending the book to me would cost a bit in postage. If you can give me the ISBN number I will try to get the book here. From the map I have it looks like adding on another 3 days walking (60 klm), but my map shows only a main road.

Nimrod. While writing this I am thinking about this Teeside Airport.................

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#2939 - 13/11/06 08:42 PM Re: Hemsley
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Loc: Renens, Vaud, Switzerland
No....... I'm screwed. It's got to be East Midland Airport otherwise it's going to cost an arm and a leg, plus a lot more time in transit thru' other airports. Unless of course I find a friendly highjacker!!!!

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#2940 - 13/11/06 09:02 PM Re: Hemsley
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hI Oldun
the number is ''0 09 461390 7
published by Constable and Company Ltd
10 Orange SreetLomdon WC2H 7EG
published 1977
hope you have bit of luck
regards ern

[This message has been edited by tim smith (edited 13 November 2006).]
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#2941 - 14/11/06 02:49 AM Re: Hemsley
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Loc: Stafford
Oldun,
Some other possibilities ;
- extend your walk by making East Midlands Airport to Helmsley the first section. I can suggest a nice route for this bit if you like,
- get St Bees guest house owner Steve to drive you from EMA to Helmsley,
- avoid the problem of getting from EMA to Helmsley, forget the Cleveland Way and instead do the Robin Hood Way which is only a cockstride away from EMA.

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#2942 - 14/11/06 09:03 AM Re: Hemsley
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Registered: 01/12/04
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Loc: Renens, Vaud, Switzerland
Tim. Thanks for info...will look for book.

LL. get St Bees guest house owner Steve to drive you from EMA to Helmsley.

How do I find him?

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#2943 - 14/11/06 01:37 PM Re: Hemsley
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Registered: 07/07/03
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Loc: Yorkshire
Here's what I'd do - and I'm a local! (Pickering).

From York (or Malton) Station get the Coastliner bus from immediately outside to Pickering. (via Malton) Then once at Pickering get the 128 bus that runs between Scarborough and Helmsley. - About every 20 minutes.

The actual journey time is about an hour and a quarter, but I'm not certain how it all links up. You'd have to check the Coastliner bus timetable (available on-line) and the Scarborough and district bus timetable (ditto)
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#2944 - 14/11/06 06:15 PM Re: Hemsley
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Registered: 24/11/04
Posts: 848
Loc: Billingham,Cleveland
Oldun,
On what date are you planning to come to England?
Nimrod

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#2945 - 14/11/06 09:18 PM Re: Hemsley
Oldun Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Nimrod:
Oldun,
On what date are you planning to come to England?
Nimrod


Nimrod. At the moment I am thinking about arriving 14th May 2007. I always like to plan ahead.

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#2946 - 14/11/06 09:24 PM Re: Hemsley
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Loc: Renens, Vaud, Switzerland
I'm off very early in the morning for a little jaunt and won't be back till Monday next. So please, nobody think I am being rude if I don't reply for a while.

Best regards to All.

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#2947 - 15/11/06 09:13 PM Re: Hemsley
tim smith Offline
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hi Oldun ,
just, had a message from Tonyk,train from york to Malton, bus from malton to Helmsley
1.30 pm , just a thought
regards
ern

[This message has been edited by tim smith (edited 16 November 2006).]
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#2948 - 16/11/06 08:05 PM Re: Hemsley
tim smith Offline
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hi Oldun,
Just had a word with author of
'' Cleveland way and missing link''
he has no objection to me posting a condensed version of the missing link on the web ,the route is about 50miles and he suggest's to take 3 days on it, if you would like it let me know
regards
ern
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#2949 - 19/11/06 10:50 AM Re: Hemsley
loftypurvis Offline
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Registered: 10/08/02
Posts: 133
Loc: Hull
Oldun please contact me on
loftypurvis@yahoo.co.uk
Regarding the Cleveland way

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#2950 - 21/11/06 12:25 AM Re: Hemsley
Oldun Offline
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Registered: 01/12/04
Posts: 1750
Loc: Renens, Vaud, Switzerland
[QUOTE]Originally posted by tim smith:
[B]hi Oldun,
Just had a word with author of
'' Cleveland way and missing link''
he has no objection to me posting a condensed version of the missing link on the web ,the route is about 50miles and he suggest's to take 3 days on it, if you would like it let me know

Hullo Ern.

Thanks for going to all the trouble. I would be interested to read about the "missing link". However, in reality this time the extra 3 days would cut into my schedule of doing the walk, seeing my extended family for my sister-in-laws 70th birthday party, and getting back home.

Completing the Cleveland Way Ring sounds like an interesting idea, making any starting point very convenient. I wonder if Sherpa would service the extra bit to complete the ring?


[This message has been edited by Oldun (edited 21 November 2006).]

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#2951 - 21/11/06 01:00 PM Re: Hemsley
tim smith Offline
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Registered: 28/10/06
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Loc: england
Hi Oldun,
it's no troouble at all, the route goes through Broxa forest and on to north of Hole of Horcum then Levisham, Lastingham,Hutton-le-hole and Helmsley
have done all the grid reference's.
condensed the book to just over a page
but you would want the map of the north york moors. either the 1- 50000 or two 1-25000 i have the west side one OUTDOOR LEISURE MAP 25 .as you might guess i have only put the bare essentials in,
i have to check one or two things before i put it on the net
the books been out of print for 11 years
i would hope with the interest shown Malcolm Boyes might try for a reprint
am enjoying myself trying to sort things out
regards
ern
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#2952 - 03/12/06 02:40 PM Re: Hemsley
Oldun Offline
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Registered: 01/12/04
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Loc: Renens, Vaud, Switzerland
Thanks ern. Very comprehensive. I have printed the page out. Thanks again. Oldun.

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#2953 - 03/12/06 03:09 PM Re: Hemsley
tim smith Offline
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Registered: 28/10/06
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Loc: england
hI Oldun,
you are quite welcome ,kept me out of mischeif, check the edited bit , the capitals
regards
ern
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