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#40293 - 20/05/07 11:45 AM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Originally posted by tonyk:
[B] That was in the eighties when he had his unilateral nuclear policy as part of his 1983 election manifesto.From what I can remember a certain Anthony Blair supported that policy.

I have always liked Micheal Foot,haven't agreed with everything he has said,but he has remained honest and stuck to what he believes in.



Yes, until the mid-eighties the electorate had a real choice, which is what democracy was meant to be about. Then Bliar saw how the tories were winning elections. copied them and replaced Labour with New Labour. Now Cameron is envious of New Labour being in power for ten years and is edging the Conservartives towards becoming Blue Labour. So no real choice again at the next General Election - and who do we think we are trying to tell Iraq about democracy and impose our 'values' on them ?

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#40294 - 20/05/07 03:50 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Come on boys......... walkies!
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#40295 - 20/05/07 05:08 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Gggrrrrrr.........woof woof!!!

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#40296 - 22/05/07 06:32 AM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Originally posted by flying scot:
You are welcome to the whole sorry bunch. We are on the road to Independence. FREEEDOMM............ PS We never ever had a Queen Lizzie the first never mind the second.

[This message has been edited by flying scot (edited 09 May 2007).]


scotty, And would you have Scotland outside the European Communuty ?

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#40297 - 22/05/07 09:46 AM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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I see Lizard has found a new outlet to vent his frustrations (and schoolboy politics).
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#40298 - 22/05/07 07:04 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Sammy, It takes a warped mind to interpret continuing an interesting discussion as venting frustrations. Schoolboy Politics for me meant getting a good grade A Level in British Constitution. Sadly it seems you are just determined to be perpetually negative on here.

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#40299 - 22/05/07 08:54 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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But you're not discussing Lizard - you are making your own polarised position pronouncements:

Thatcher - one big mistake (a childish slur), Blair's one mistake - Iraq (the merits of the Iraq war are debatable but I assure you he's made plenty more - the fostering of the PC culture being one among many) The electorate always vote more against one than for one (a ridiculous 'Sun' reader's generalisation.)

As for choice - sadly it's largely only a perception since the advent of the EU. We are bound under their constitution legally and therefore their governance. The advent of the Euro will complete the process of voluntary capitulation.
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#40300 - 22/05/07 10:27 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Ah Sam...nice to see your subtle countering of the polarised position pronouncement with a detrimental defensive deconstruction.
I would favour a sporadic spatial solipsism but one mans consonantal alliteration.....

Bert Bing Bong


[This message has been edited by Dr.BingoBongo (edited 22 May 2007).]

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#40301 - 22/05/07 10:30 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Sammy. On occasions I have posted my opinions, just as you now have done in your latest post. I am more open minded than to dismiss the thoughts of others as "polarised position pronouncements" and fid it more constructive to use reasoned arguments against opinionins contrary to mind than to feebly try to dismiss them with comments such as "childish slur" and
"ridiculous Sun readers generalisation". As for the Euro, well that's another topic for debate, but, like it or not, when I'm more likely to be paid by Euro cash than Sterling cheque, it looks as if the Euro's here to stay.

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#40302 - 23/05/07 08:27 AM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Dr B - You're too sharp!
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