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#40263 - 08/05/07 03:45 PM God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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We are enjoying Queen Elizabeth II here in the colonies. We love her and the UK. It's especially nice when visiting Rotary Clubs in the UK we have a toast to the Queen.

But I'm going to miss Tony Blair, if only for his flair with the English language. How will the dour Gordon Brown do in Prime Minister's Questions?
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#40264 - 08/05/07 06:27 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
Nimrod Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by landryrk:
We are enjoying Queen Elizabeth II here in the colonies. We love her and the UK. It's especially nice when visiting Rotary Clubs in the UK we have a toast to the Queen.

But I'm going to miss Tony Blair, if only for his flair with the English language. How will the dour Gordon Brown do in Prime Minister's Questions?


Good riddance to him! [img]http://www.coast2coast.co.uk/ubb/mad.gif[/img]
Nimrod

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#40265 - 08/05/07 06:48 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Thats what some said when Maggie Thatcher went too. Both strong leaders, and both made almighty blunders, some say Blair with Iraq, Thatcher with the Poll Tax. I wonder what great cock up Brown has in store for us all.
Dave.

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#40266 - 09/05/07 12:04 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Think Thatcher made more great big blunders than just poll tax. Grrrrr that woman.

Am just sitting with my cup of tea waiting for PM questions now - as much as I disagree with Iraq and many of the policies which have been introduced, I still don't feel they caused the level of societal demise which the Conservatives managed to successfully achieve during their time in power.

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#40267 - 09/05/07 05:27 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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You are welcome to the whole sorry bunch. We are on the road to Independence. FREEEDOMM............ PS We never ever had a Queen Lizzie the first never mind the second.

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#40268 - 09/05/07 06:36 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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The Scots are the most balanced people there are, with a chip on each shoulder. Why not try to be pro-Scottish instead of anti English? You can have your freedom when the oil runs out. Until then be patient and maintain a humble silence as you have done for the past 300 years. A nickerty-nackerty-noo-noo-noo.

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#40269 - 09/05/07 09:23 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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I'm pleased to stay the local authority I currently stay in in Scotland chose not to vote SNP - they had more sense. Independence?! What a load of pish! Sorry - not a very intelligent arguement from my end but I can not be bothered getting into a political daebate about why the SNP are a waste of space. If this is a sign of the way Scottish politics are moving, I am pleased that I'm seeking refuge in the south. ;-p [img]http://www.coast2coast.co.uk/ubb/wink.gif[/img]

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#40270 - 10/05/07 02:44 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
Nimrod Offline
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All I can say is,his speech to the people of Sedgefield/Trimdon was gut wrenching.
Nimrod

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#40271 - 11/05/07 12:29 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Steady now,Nimmers.
Don't want you bringing that vexed dark cloud across Cumbria next week.

(I'm in total agreement with you,by the way.
I watched his speech and this resulted in my rather lovely HD Sony television currently playing host to my right Miendl).

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#40272 - 11/05/07 02:43 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
Ash Offline
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Registered: 13/04/06
Posts: 50
Loc: Selby
Just for balance I would offer another view [img]http://www.coast2coast.co.uk/ubb/frown.gif[/img]I'm not a labour party member before you ask)

Blair is a formidable politician who secured 3 labour terms with thumping majorities. A major achievement that has not been done before.

His so called 3rd way (social justice with economic stability) is now the only way and is copied by opposition in the UK and envied in Europe (e.g. Sarkozy). He has in other words changed the political landscape.

The health service has had more investment, has more and better paid doctors, nurses. Waiting lists are down considerably. Listening to an interview on Radio 5 last night was like listening to the "what have the romans done for us" sketch from Life of Brian. The NHS is far from perfect (and never will be) but better than in 1997.

Schools are better equiped and results better than 10 years ago. There is a whole army of teaching assts etc now in schools helping to deliver results.

Crime is down (some is up as well) but overall is down. There are more policeman than ever.

He has done more than any other to redistribute wealth and initiatives like surestart, better maternity leave, more liberal attitudes (in the main) and tollerance (civil partnerships etc) are achievements.

On Foreign policy success in Kosovo and Sierra Lieone plus a greater presence for the UK on leading initiatives in Africa and Climate change.

Iraq will be a problem and is uncomfortable and history will eventually judge.

Peace in NI. Enough said.

10 years of economic growth. We've got very used to this and take it for granted. Some of us can remember the recessions of '82, '88 and '92.

I'll stop. Nobody can be in govt and not make mistakes and can't please everyone all the time. On balance he's been a good PM and I think history will judge him as such despite the spin, Iraq, cash for honours and all the other not so good things.

Apologies for the length and I'll now get back in my bunker with my tin hat on.

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#40273 - 11/05/07 04:03 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Well said, Ash.

I am a Labour Party member [very left-wing] - although I wouldn't be surprised to find myself expelled before too long!

My main grouse has been in foreign affairs.

I suspect the main problem he has faced is that the natural Labour support is unhappy about warmongering while the right is all for giving johnny foreigner a good seeing to and annoyed that it wasn't one of their own doing it.

Listened to a female with farming interests last night who claimed the govt had deserted them over F&M and would never be trusted - as if farmers ever would have! Funny, I seem to recall the miners and steelworkers in my area being not just deserted but deliberately put out of jobs by that bl**** woman.

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#40274 - 11/05/07 05:26 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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I agree with Nimrod,good riddance to Blair.

I think he should be put on trial in Iraq for war crimes and hanged if found guilty.The man has blood on his hands and should be called to account.

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#40275 - 11/05/07 06:12 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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I think the biggest tragedy in British politics over the last twenty years was the untimely death of John Smith,whom I sure would have been a better Prime Minister. I might not have agreed with his politics,but I respected him and would have trusted him more than the vainglory Blair. If Blair was good at anything,he was a brilliant orator,but then again so was Neil Kinnock and it did him no good.
Blair rightly triumphed over the Tories in the 1997 election,but in the next two he only won because of the lack of opposition,which was no good not only for choices,but it weakened Parliament.
The only member of the parliamentary Labour I have any time for is Frank Field - and I am not a Labour memberor supporter.
Nimrod

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#40276 - 11/05/07 07:18 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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This is a walking forum. Let us concentrate on what unites us all. Leave the divisive stuff for somewhere else. Well that’s my annual serious bit for this year. Back to the wind ups soon.

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#40277 - 11/05/07 10:13 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
Oldun Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by landryrk:
We are enjoying Queen Elizabeth II here in the colonies. We love her and the UK. It's especially nice when visiting Rotary Clubs in the UK we have a toast to the Queen.

But I'm going to miss Tony Blair, if only for his flair with the English language. How will the dour Gordon Brown do in Prime Minister's Questions?


Landryrk.

Thank you for your words about our Queen. She is the one stable thing in our country and is above all politics.

I have noted that our politicians are always seen in a better light abroad than they are at home. Mrs Thatcher could do no wrong in the eyes of the world, but like the Blair government she went on too long, and the people that cheered them both into power have short memories of the good that they both did initially.

After the showbiz razzmatazz of the Blair era Gordon Brown is a totally unknown coin. He is a proven good financial tactician, but comes across as totally uncharismatic on the media.

Although I am a life long Tory I expect that Gordon Brown will be a quiet, but very adept leader during his coming short term in office.

The rock that he must bare on his back is the legacy of political mistrust that has built up after UK went from the legitimate invasion of Afghanistan, to the confidence trick that was played on the public leading up to the invasion of Iraq.

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#40278 - 12/05/07 12:45 AM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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I think Prime Ministers of any party should only serve two terms,just like the US President. We also need a radical reform of the House of Commons - why do we need nearly 700 MPs for this little island?
Nimrod

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#40279 - 12/05/07 05:57 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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I was search around trying to find the reason for so many MP's and came across the following paragraph....

London consists of 33 small cities, each with their own governments, schools, areas of wealth and poverty and sense of individual identity. Each borough has national government representation and a local council that collects taxes and provides essential services.

...and that is just London. Think of Birmingham, Manchester, etc., each city within a city wanting to have their say in government on how they are run. You can very quickly come up with the figure of 700.

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#40280 - 12/05/07 07:16 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Scottish Breakaway (Coronation Coronach)

Chorus:
Nae Liz the Twa, nae Lilibet the One
Nae Liz will ever dae
We'll mak' oor land Republican
In a Scottish breakaway

Noo Scotland hasnae got a King
And she hasnae got a Queen
How can ye hae the Second Liz
When the First yin's never been

Her man he's cried the Duke o' Edinburgh
He's wan o' the kiltie Greeks
Och dinnae blaw ma kilt awa'
For it's Lizzie wears the breeks

He's a handsome man and he looks like Don Juan
He's beloved by the weaker sex
But it disnae really matter at a'
'Cause it's Lizzie that signs the cheques

Noo her sister Meg's got a bonny pair o' legs
But she didnae want a German or a Greek
Poor aul' Peter was her choice but he didnae suit the boys
So they sellt him up the creek

But Meg was fly an' she beat them by an' by
Wi' Tony hyphenated Armstrong
Behind the pomp and play the question o' the day
Wis, Who did Suzie Wong

Sae here's tae the lion, the bonnie rampant lion,
An' a lang streitch tae his paw
Gie a Hampdon roar an' it's oot the door
Ta-ta tae Chairlie's maw

(as sung by Alex Campbell)

Tune: The Sash My Father Wore



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#40281 - 12/05/07 07:31 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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I know what you mean Flying Scot - but it reminded me of archetypical scotchmen bellowing lustfully around a fire (full of "Heavy") oblivious to the huge subsidies that Scotland receives from within the UK - The absence of which would cause many a scotch tear.

Stop it or we'll send the army up there (as usual)
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#40282 - 12/05/07 07:37 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Alas we have a bigger bunch of useless numpties sitting in Edinburgh than Westminster ever saw.

As R Burns said..
Fareweel to a' our Scottish fame,
Fareweel our ancient glory!
Fareweel ev'n to the Scottish name,
Sae famed in martial story!
Now Sark rins over Solway sands,
An Tweed rins to the ocean,
To mark where England's province stands ---
Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!

What force or guile could not subdue
Thro many warlike ages
Is wrought now by a coward few
For hireling traitor's wages.
The English steel we could disdain,
Secure in valour's station;
But English gold has been our bane ---
Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!

O, would, or I had seen the day
That Treason thus could sell us,
My auld grey head had lien in clay,
Wi Bruce and loyal Wallace!
But pith and power, till my last hour,
I'll mak this declaration:-
`We're bought and sold for English gold' ---
Such a parcel of rogues in a nation!
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#40283 - 12/05/07 07:44 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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The Tartan Army
Here we come...
Stottin' down the street...
We get the funniest looks
From everyone we meet.
Hey, hey, we're the Tartan Army
And people say we fanny around.
But we're too busy singing
To put anybody down.

We're just trying to be friendly;
We like to sing and play.
We're the famous Tartan Army
And we've got something to say.

Hey, hey, we're the Tartan Army
And people say we fanny around.
But we're too busy singing
To put anybody down.
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#40284 - 12/05/07 11:22 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Fair fa'your honest,sonsie face,
Great chieftain o' the pudding race!
Aboon them a'yet tak your place,
Painch, tripe, or thairm:
Weel are ye wordy o'a grace
As lang's my arm
The groaning trencher there ye fill,
Your hurdies like a distant hill,
Your pin was help to mend a mill
In time o'need,
While thro' your pours the dews distill
Like amber bead.
His nife see rustic labour dight,
An' cut you up wi' ready sleight,
Trenching your gushing entrails bright,
Like ony ditch;
And then, O what glorious sight,
Warm-reeking, rich!
Then, horn for horn, they stretch an'strive:
Deil tak the hindmost! on they drive,
Till a' their weel-swall'd kytes belyve
Are bent like drums;
Then auld Guidman, maist like rive,
Bethankit! hums.
Is there that owre his french ragout
Or olio that wad staw a sow,
Or fricassee wad make her spew
Wi' perfect sonner,
Looks down wi'sneering, scornful'view
On sic a dinner?

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#40285 - 13/05/07 08:46 AM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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When chapman billies leave the street,
And drouthy neibors, neibors, meet;
As market days are wearing late,
And folk begin to tak the gate,
While we sit bousing at the nappy,
An' getting fou and unco happy,
We think na on the lang Scots miles,
The mosses, waters, slaps and stiles,
That lie between us and our hame,
Where sits our sulky, sullen dame,
Gathering her brows like gathering storm,
Nursing her wrath to keep it warm.'
(Auld Ayr, wham ne'er a town surpasses,
For honest men and bonie lasses).
'She prophesied that late or soon,
Thou wad be found, deep drown'd in Doon,
Or catch'd wi' warlocks in the mirk,
By Alloway's auld, haunted kirk.
Ah, gentle dames! it gars me greet,
To think how mony counsels sweet,
How mony lengthen'd, sage advices,
The husband frae the wife despises!
'Inspiring bold John Barleycorn!
What dangers thou canst make us scorn!
Wi' tippenny, we fear nae evil;
Wi' usquabae, we'll face the devil!'
"Weel done, Cutty-sark!"
And in an instant all was dark:’
‘ Now, wha this tale o' truth shall read,
Ilk man and mother's son, take heed:
Whene'er to Drink you are inclin'd,
Or Cutty-sarks rin in your mind,
Think ye may buy the joys o'er dear;
Remember Tam o' Shanter's mare’

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#40286 - 13/05/07 06:45 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Originally posted by Slogger:
Thats what some said when Maggie Thatcher went too. Both strong leaders, and both made almighty blunders, some say Blair with Iraq, Thatcher with the Poll Tax. I wonder what great cock up Brown has in store for us all.
Dave.


The difference is that Blair has made one big mistake, Iraq, whereas Thatcher was one big mistake.

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#40287 - 13/05/07 10:08 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
Redlesweb Offline
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No often I agree with you Lounge Lizard - but I agree whole heartedly.

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#40288 - 14/05/07 03:44 AM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Here in the states, almost every day I read another Blair analysis, most in praise and admiration but with the big question (as I've heard in Britain), why did he go along with Bush in Iraq?

Ten years ago, Cathryn and I were visiting Ireland, heard Blair campaigning, were mightily impressed, and have been since until Iraq. Oh how we loved his oratory. He was our last hope to talk Bush out of war (our Congress was pathetic). His failure to do so will sadly be his legacy.

As Britons are still talking about Thacher 20 years later, so will they be talking about Blair 20 years from now.

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#40289 - 14/05/07 12:59 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
tonyk Offline
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Quote:
why did he go along with Bush in Iraq?


Harold WIlson was in the same position in the sixties when the Americans wanted him to commit troops to Vietnam.Harold Wilson was a thinker and knew the impications of such a deployment so he distanced himself from it.It turned out to be a wise decision.The trouble with Blair is that he dosen't think,he talks in sound bites trying to tell people what he thinks they want to hear.At one point he was talking about invading Somalia,Sudan,The Congo,and just about anywhere else that took his fancy.It seems he is slighlty detached from reality and whilst he is genuine in his intentions dosen't seem to realise the consequences of making such rash decisions.

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#40290 - 17/05/07 09:38 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Quote:
Originally posted by Nimrod:
I think the biggest tragedy in British politics over the last twenty years was the untimely death of John Smith,whom I sure would have been a better Prime Minister. I might not have agreed with his politics,but I respected him and would have trusted him more than the vainglory Blair. If Blair was good at anything,he was a brilliant orator,but then again so was Neil Kinnock and it did him no good.
Blair rightly triumphed over the Tories in the 1997 election,but in the next two he only won because of the lack of opposition,which was no good not only for choices,but it weakened Parliament.
The only member of the parliamentary Labour I have any time for is Frank Field - and I am not a Labour memberor supporter.
Nimrod


Michael Foot was the Conservative's greatest asset in the 1970s and John Major was New Labour's in 1997 as have been his annual successors ever since. The electorate votes more against one of the main parties rather than for one.

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#40291 - 17/05/07 10:14 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Originally posted by tonyk:
[B] That was in the eighties when he had his unilateral nuclear policy as part of his 1983 election manifesto.From what I can remember a certain Anthony Blair supported that policy.

I have always liked Micheal Foot,haven't agreed with everything he has said,but he has remained honest and stuck to what he believes in.

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#40292 - 19/05/07 10:58 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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anyone coming for a walk?

madame cholet
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#40293 - 20/05/07 11:45 AM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
Lounge Lizard Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by tonyk:
Originally posted by tonyk:
[B] That was in the eighties when he had his unilateral nuclear policy as part of his 1983 election manifesto.From what I can remember a certain Anthony Blair supported that policy.

I have always liked Micheal Foot,haven't agreed with everything he has said,but he has remained honest and stuck to what he believes in.



Yes, until the mid-eighties the electorate had a real choice, which is what democracy was meant to be about. Then Bliar saw how the tories were winning elections. copied them and replaced Labour with New Labour. Now Cameron is envious of New Labour being in power for ten years and is edging the Conservartives towards becoming Blue Labour. So no real choice again at the next General Election - and who do we think we are trying to tell Iraq about democracy and impose our 'values' on them ?

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#40294 - 20/05/07 03:50 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Come on boys......... walkies!
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#40295 - 20/05/07 05:08 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Gggrrrrrr.........woof woof!!!

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#40296 - 22/05/07 06:32 AM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
Lounge Lizard Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by flying scot:
You are welcome to the whole sorry bunch. We are on the road to Independence. FREEEDOMM............ PS We never ever had a Queen Lizzie the first never mind the second.

[This message has been edited by flying scot (edited 09 May 2007).]


scotty, And would you have Scotland outside the European Communuty ?

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#40297 - 22/05/07 09:46 AM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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I see Lizard has found a new outlet to vent his frustrations (and schoolboy politics).
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#40298 - 22/05/07 07:04 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Sammy, It takes a warped mind to interpret continuing an interesting discussion as venting frustrations. Schoolboy Politics for me meant getting a good grade A Level in British Constitution. Sadly it seems you are just determined to be perpetually negative on here.

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#40299 - 22/05/07 08:54 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
Sam Peps Offline
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But you're not discussing Lizard - you are making your own polarised position pronouncements:

Thatcher - one big mistake (a childish slur), Blair's one mistake - Iraq (the merits of the Iraq war are debatable but I assure you he's made plenty more - the fostering of the PC culture being one among many) The electorate always vote more against one than for one (a ridiculous 'Sun' reader's generalisation.)

As for choice - sadly it's largely only a perception since the advent of the EU. We are bound under their constitution legally and therefore their governance. The advent of the Euro will complete the process of voluntary capitulation.
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#40300 - 22/05/07 10:27 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Ah Sam...nice to see your subtle countering of the polarised position pronouncement with a detrimental defensive deconstruction.
I would favour a sporadic spatial solipsism but one mans consonantal alliteration.....

Bert Bing Bong


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#40301 - 22/05/07 10:30 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Sammy. On occasions I have posted my opinions, just as you now have done in your latest post. I am more open minded than to dismiss the thoughts of others as "polarised position pronouncements" and fid it more constructive to use reasoned arguments against opinionins contrary to mind than to feebly try to dismiss them with comments such as "childish slur" and
"ridiculous Sun readers generalisation". As for the Euro, well that's another topic for debate, but, like it or not, when I'm more likely to be paid by Euro cash than Sterling cheque, it looks as if the Euro's here to stay.

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#40302 - 23/05/07 08:27 AM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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#40303 - 04/06/07 03:53 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Originally posted by landryrk:
We are enjoying Queen Elizabeth II here in the colonies. We love her and the UK. It's especially nice when visiting Rotary Clubs in the UK we have a toast to the Queen.



Has anyone else on here met the Queen ? I did and talked to her for a while about fifteen years ago and my daughter did and gave her some flowers last year. I also met Prince Philip many years ago.

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#40304 - 28/06/07 06:26 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Well,he's gone,and as much as I didn't like him,he did give a bravura performance in his last PMQ and the responce he gave to a Liberal Democrat MP about the relationship between the State and the Church was well measured and to be honest it was the type of answer deserved.
Now Gordon Brown is now our Prime Minister,I just hope we don't learn that the wrong man has been in power for the last ten years.
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#40305 - 29/06/07 06:35 AM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Originally posted by Nimrod:

Now Gordon Brown is now our Prime Minister,I just hope we don't learn that the wrong man has been in power for the last ten years.
Nimrod


At least Gordon Brown will be doing well if we do learn that. Let's just hope that he too doesn't make one big mistake to be remembered by in years to come.

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#40308 - 02/07/07 06:59 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Methinks some recent postings have been deleted from this thread. Why ?

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#40309 - 02/07/07 08:07 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Er,which ones?
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#40310 - 03/07/07 06:27 AM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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If my memory serves me correctly, an american asked whether he should avoid London on account of the car bombs and the response was that he should go there as one was far more likely to be killed in a road accident than by a bomb - most useful and helpful advice I thought. He could also be reminded that every year about 900,000 people die in the United Kingdom and that for many years NONE of these deaths are due to terrorist activity.

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#40311 - 03/07/07 09:44 AM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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It's all a question of what you get used to.

In London we have grown up with the Blitz, atomic bomb threats, IRA bombings and now the lastest wave of Muslem bombings.

In the States they have grown up with murders, rapes, hangings, gasings, electrocutions and computer games that kill everything in sight.

When things go on long enough one gets used to them and they go un-noticed.

Just another statistic.

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#40312 - 03/07/07 09:55 AM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Its not the bombs that scare me but the thought of one of these nutters operating on me in hospital.I just hope for the sake of their patients they are better at the day job.

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#40313 - 03/07/07 02:31 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Originally posted by tonyk:
Its not the bombs that scare me but the thought of one of these nutters operating on me in hospital.I just hope for the sake of their patients they are better at the day job.


That is a scary thought.

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#40314 - 03/07/07 06:51 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Originally posted by tonyk:
Its not the bombs that scare me but the thought of one of these nutters operating on me in hospital.I just hope for the sake of their patients they are better at the day job.


Sadly not. I was talking today with a woman treated recently by one of them at the neurology department at North Staffs Hospital, she had been given an MRI scan, he asks might she be pregnant, 'what at 66?' she replies, to which he just looked blank, his mind obviously on other matters.

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#40315 - 03/07/07 09:02 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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This is beginning to resemble a tabloid letters page.

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#40316 - 09/07/07 09:06 PM Re: God Bless the Queen & Goodby Tony
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Four of them locked up today for a long time, so London's safe for us all again !

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