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#406089 - 03/11/13 10:25 PM Re: Spine 2014. [Re: Slogger]
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Registered: 18/11/04
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The big problem comes if forced to stop - ie. in worst case scenario through injury and this is where back-up becomes necessary. As you point out chilling needs to be countered rapidly. Runners, or fast moving walkers, are more at risk. For me it's bivvy bag, something dry to wear and a heat pad. I've only needed to do this once but the inevitable shivereing abated within about twenty minutes.
Are heat pads a part of SR essential kit Dave?
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#406095 - 04/11/13 04:18 PM Re: Spine 2014. [Re: Slogger]
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No they are not.
Compulsory kit is:-

Backpack/Rucksack
Compass & Maps.
GPS.
Whistle.
Knife (Multi tool etc).
Head Torch with spare batteries.
Waterprodd jacket with hood.
Waterproof Trousers.
Hat, Gloves and spare socks (1 pair).
Base layer.
Appropriate clothing for Mountain/Fell running.
Medical Kit:-
Blister packs, pain relief,rehydration sachets,Savlon etc.
1 x Triangular bandage, 2x Crepe rolled bandages, Safety pins.
Survival bag.
Sleeping bag (Extreme -10 dag rated).
Roll Mat
Tent/Bivi Bag
Stove with 1 pan to produce hot water.
Jetboil,Mini Trangia etc
Fuel with spare in case of emergency.
Waterproof matches/and or lighter.
Spork or similar
Water carrying system
2 days rations.
Eye protection must be worn if there is snow cover on the ground.
Other optional clothing and equipment.
Dave.

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#406100 - 05/11/13 10:23 PM Re: Spine 2014. [Re: Slogger]
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Interesting reading guys, thanks.

I think there are many different Pertex materials; The Volt jacket seems to use the same ''Pertex shield +'' material that the Rab 190g waterproof trousers I had (and destroyed) a couple of years ago. It look great and worked well in terms of keeps dry and not sweating up and may be better in a jacket as it was the metal lace guides on my boots that did for the material.

I like the idea of a chest pouch, the OMM one with a map case built in looks good, may try one out.

And one day I will treat myself to a Buffalo shirt, they do sound the business

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#406101 - 06/11/13 01:04 PM Re: Spine 2014. [Re: Slogger]
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Les,
Ive recently turned my Goretex Paclite waterproof trousers inside out and discovered that the Goretex membrane has disintegrated at the inner ankle area. Around a 3 inche square has peeled away on each leg.
Must have happened during the Spine as that was the last time I wore them. I may send them away for repair, they weren't cheap.
I used the OMM chest pouch last time and found it really useful, they have updated it since. Don't know about the newer one but the original could have done with some compartment separation, as everything got all mixed up together.
Dave.

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#406102 - 06/11/13 05:26 PM Re: Spine 2014. [Re: Slogger]
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Hi Dave
That's exactly where mine went but the damage eventually went right through and up one leg. I may try to get mine repaired too for the same reason !
I'll have a look at the OMM stuf at some point, may try one of the pouches linked to my Osprey pack for next summers LDPs
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#406110 - 09/11/13 10:47 AM Re: Spine 2014. [Re: Slogger]
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450 entry fee and they insist on a knife..?
Maybe the guy at the front should have used his knife to chip away those ice balls Dave...
'Tear and shake' to obtain some instant warmth would be a better choice imao
but, you pays your money...
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#406111 - 09/11/13 02:26 PM Re: Spine 2014. [Re: Slogger]
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Carrying a small knife when walking or camping is legal, mine is part of a small multi tool.
450 for a 7 day event is good vfm, they charge as much and more for a one day Ironman.
Ive got some re-usable hand warmers, but they are a bit heavy for this event, with everything else. The disposable ones may be a good idea.
Everyone is weight conscious though and not wanting to carry anything more than absolutely necessary. Someone even baulked at the suggestion that they may add a hi viz vest to the list, as locating aid, in the event of an emergency.
It's the training weekend at the moment. They will be out there now on the Mary Townley Loop of the Pennine Bridleway, as I type. I hope they are not getting the awful weather we are having. Wet, windy and heavy hail. Mind, I am suspecting that this is the sort of weather we could be facing January.
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#406112 - 09/11/13 02:32 PM Re: Spine 2014. [Re: Slogger]
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Ive been looking for one man storm shelter, that I could just throw over myself and sit it out, if hit by a real heavy shower or hail, until it's passed. The smallest seems to be two-man, which I have already. Vango used to do one but looks like they are discontinued.
I did make one myself, years ago, out of an old survival bag, for during my long Non Stoppers, but never needed to use it.
Dave.

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#406113 - 09/11/13 03:02 PM Re: Spine 2014. [Re: Slogger]
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Originally Posted By: Slogger
Carrying a small knife when walking or camping is legal, mine is part of a small multi tool.

I asked a policeman a year or so ago just to check. So long as it is a folding pocket penknife up to 3 inhes and not one that can be locked in an open position then it is OK. I guess that there is a proviso that you are not trying to stab someone with it!
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#406114 - 10/11/13 10:08 PM Re: Spine 2014. [Re: Harland]
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Registered: 18/11/04
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Loc: North Derbyshire UK
It's not a matter of legality, merely usefulness... especially where every gram counts.
I wouldn't regard the quick stops involved here as camping either.
Why would it be compulsory to carry a knife..? I certainly wouldn't pack a knife or 'multi tool' in January or any other month.
Did you find the knife useful on this year's event Dave?
Some form of 'hi vis' inclusion yes, esp. as road sections are used the dark...
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