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#407100 - 29/04/16 10:25 PM Re: South West Coast Path 2014 [Re: Harland]
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It is funny how these "off piste" cross country connecting walks sound really interesting when logically I imagine they are a bit unremarkable. Guess it is walking for walking's sake in its purest sense.
Will park these in the memory bank for future reference.
Anyway, off to bed now and on the train tomorrow ready for Sunday am.
Another adventure.
Happy Days

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#407101 - 17/05/16 10:30 AM Re: South West Coast Path 2014 [Re: john57r]
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Well I got there; just about. Got to Lamorna Cove in mid afternoon on day 15. Trying to get round from St Ives in two days was a bit tough on hot days and I got a few leg problems on the last morning. Plus I would have been late to the YHA which is a couple of miles on from Penzance centre. So with an early train in the morning, I decided I could pick up the last 5/6 miles on the second leg.
It was a good adventure and quite a tough challenge. worth doing. Hats off to you for doing it all at once. I think I would have to drop the pace slightly to get al the way round, although as you say, the southern half is a bit easier.
Some of the sections on the north coast were fairly brutal eg Bude to Boscastle, St Ives to Cot Valley YHA, Clovelly to Bude and the first day to Lynmouth.
Not sure I would want to do them again!
The scenery was magnificent, splendid and at times a bit intimidating.
Glad I did it though

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#407102 - 17/05/16 05:16 PM Re: South West Coast Path 2014 [Re: john57r]
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Well done, I was thinking of you especially as the weather appeared to be quite hot which has its downside as well as upside. Did you carry your tent? You have done the hard bit, it is all downhill now to South Haven Point!
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#407103 - 17/05/16 11:58 PM Re: South West Coast Path 2014 [Re: john57r]
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Yes I am slightly tanned on the head at least! Actually had some pretty bad weather on day two around Heddons Mouth. Really wet and windy on those high cliff paths. Not for the faint hearted. The two days of sea fret from Treyarnon to Portreath. Walking along the river bed of the Gannell was interesting too.
Didn't take the tent in the end; I had too much stuff although in fairness I used quite a lot of it. Found accommodation pretty easily in the event.
It was a toughie in parts but having done it I am not sure I buy in to the idea of anywhere on the SWCP being "downhill all the way" !!
Would you split the remainder at Plymouth if you were in my position? May not have time to do all the rest this September

John

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#407104 - 18/05/16 02:00 PM Re: South West Coast Path 2014 [Re: john57r]
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I guess that having walked about 270 miles you still have 360 to go, so Plymouth at about 410 from Minehead is a bit short of halfway of the remainder but it has good train links to get you home. So if time wise you have to split it then this seems fairly sensible unless you fancy walking on to Salcombe which would be a better mileage split. However Plymouth, I guess, for you would be a one week walk and then it would take you two weeks for the remainder.

I presume that you didn't get to The Gannel at low tide as you had to walk along the river bed. The tides and river crossings are something that you will have to keep in mind when you continue onwards to South Haven point.

Whilst, because of time pressures, you had to break the trail into 2/3 parts how did you feel - could you have continued? Probably a difficult one to answer as if you had been able to spare the time to walk all the way then your brain would have tuned into that. What was the path like, the descents when I did a bit a while ago they were pretty muddy/slippy?

If I don't respond quickly it could be down to me using an old computer (as I am now) whilst the other gets sorted or the fact that I am going on holiday for a rest next week. Anyway well done it is a lovely walk albeit "a bit" strenuous in places.
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#407105 - 18/05/16 08:57 PM Re: South West Coast Path 2014 [Re: Harland]
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Yes I have left myself an awkward sort of distance even if I use the Dorset Ridgeway route. It is three weeks walking near as makes no difference.
Plymouth would make sense travel wise and I reckon would take about 8/9 days. I may do this in September and come back early next summer for the rest; although I had planned a N_S PW next year.
I walked into Newquay and got directed to what in fact was the tidal "bridge" that was highest upriver. There seems to be a track of sorts that runs along what would be the river bed at high tide that gets you to Rusey Mill car park in a more direct way than the alternate SWCP overland route to that same point.
It runs below the bank itself although there would be no obvious way of climbing out if the tide began to run. started thinking about quicksand!
I had a few aching muscles, probably because I pushed on quite hard from St Ives, but I could have continued. I would have paced myself more and not chased the clock as much on a single trip. I am afraid I do berate myself if am slower than a pace I have in my head for any given section. Accepting that I might not arrive until say 7 at night not 5 would make life easier.
I do find however that after about 13 days I start thinking of home. Did the same on the PW.
The track was dry other than around Pendeen; too dry in some cases. Mostly it had a nice spring in it.

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#407106 - 19/05/16 08:25 PM Re: South West Coast Path 2014 [Re: john57r]
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When you have time, and for the benefit of others contemplating walking the SWCP, could you let us know where you stayed and how good the B&B/Pub/YH was in a similar (or better) way to mine that I posted on Page 1 of this thread on 26 November 2013.
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#407110 - 07/06/16 08:59 PM Re: South West Coast Path 2014 [Re: john57r]
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Here is a quick rundown of where I stayed. I have put down prices as a guide:
1) Minehead: Foxes Hotel and Academy.01643704450
They train teenagers with learning difficulties to hopefully embark upon a career in hospitality. This may explain the low price of 39.50 for b&b. In truth it was worth more relative to the area in which it is located. Clean and well appointed; it is on the Esplanade, close to the official start. G+
2)Lynmouth: Hillside House, Watermeet Road. 01598753501.
Around 400 metres from the harbour; it was easy to find as I staggered in after a tough 22 mile start. Denise is friendly without being pushy and the room was comfortable. Bit of river noise. Breakfast was good and she did me a sandwich thrown in for the price of 50. I was happy with the price and the place. G
3)Combe Martin: Blair Lodge. 01271882294. As you hit the first car park coming down off Great Hangman, Blair Lodge is 50 yards on your left (the name is painted on the roof). I had hoped to get to Ilfracombe but foul weather and fatigue slowed me up so I rang on spec. Rachel and her husband were great; dinner was good (there is a bar so you don't need to go out if weary) and the price was a very reasonable 55 for dinner B&B and a cider. VG
4)Saunton: Norboro Guest House. 01271816210. It was a long walk to make up for my short day previously. I cut across Baggy Point and over Saunton Down (recommended to avoid the road from Croyde)to make it in time. There is still an unpleasant half mile road walk to get to Norboro. Bernie and Rob kindly ran me into Braunton to eat. The room was ok as was breakfast. Perfectly adequate let down a bit by location (although only a few yards from the Burrows section) but there are few alternatives. 50 B&B. G
5)&6)Appledore. Torridge House. 01237477127. After a hot day I got the ferry over from Instow. Rang the number and Penny said she could put me up. Her house is just a few yards up a side street from the ferry and is delightful; full of woven rugs and laid back comfy furniture. The shower facilities were top notch. I thought 60 was a bit steep but didn't argue after a long day. In the event I stayed for two nights; Penny agreeing to do my washing and pick me up and drop me off at Clovelly after the next days walk. This was a good idea in the event. She is good company although we did not quite see eye to eye on the EU referendum issue! G+.
7) Elmscott YH. 08453719736. 20 self catering. Please stay here. It is in a lovely location but so few people stop it might close; leaving nearly no accommodation on this remote section of the walk. I was the only one there on a Friday night. It is 2 miles on from Hartland Quay so the hotel there is not the only option and that 2 miles makes the hard pull into Bude a little easier. Quaint old village school house conversion. You can buy food to cook there. G+
8) Bude. North Shore Backpackers Hostel (number in the back packers hostel guide). About a kilometre off the path in the centre of Bude. A nice place for 22. Decent basic facilities. Good value. bit of a trek after a long day. G
9) Boscastle YH. 08453719006. Beautiful location right in the fairytale harbour. Good food and shops close by (just out of tourist camera shot!). Right on the path which was vital after a rather brutal walk from Bude. Self catering. 21. Got my own room. Perfect. VG+
10)Port Isaac. Slipway Inn. Right on the harbour again; bang on the path. The owner runs a pub near Trebarwith and let me book a room for 50. The room was small but it is a tourist hot spot, so 78 dinner drinks and B&B isn't actually a lot. G
11)Treyarnon Bay YH. 08453719664. Beautiful setting and not a bad walk although it looks a long way on the map 19.73. Plus there is a basic restaurant and bar so all you need. Some slightly boisterous teenagers but hey the clue is in the name and it stopped about 11 pm. On the path. VG
12)Perranporth. The Seiners Arms. A pub bang on the harbour and path once again. I just walked in after a very long day and got in. Basic pub food and drink on tap. The room was a bit dated and slightly shabby but again perfectly adequate and above all convenient. 55 B&B. G
13) Portreath. The Portreath Arms. And again right on the path as you drop into the town. Well appointed. Food and drink on tap. 50 B&B (77.90 inc dinner and drinks all night).G+.
14) St Ives. Cohort Backpackers Hostel. (number in the backpackers guide). Just in the town 300 yards off track. I liked this place. Clean, tidy, relaxed, drink fairly cheap in what is an expensive resort. 22. Bargain. VG
15)Cot Valley (St Just). YHA Lands End. 08453719643. Five miles from lands end actually but never mind. Hard to find but welcome after what is a tough 19 miles. Slightly run down. Bit pricey and the food was only ok. It is however well located if you need to make ground and have not got endless weeks to spare. 29.23. Location helps it up to a G
16) Penzance. YHA Penzance. 08453719653. 30 minutes walk out of town is a disadvantage. This is a "boutique" type of YHA with very few outdoor types in situ. Most guests were looking for a "proper" hotel without the price tag so I was a bit uncomfortable after 15 days on the trail. Good restaurant but the washing clothes option wasn't made too easy so I didn't bother. 18.73. G-
In short I got lucky; having no problem stays. I would stay at each one again if I had to and I would positively seek out most.
Hope this helps.
John

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#407114 - 08/06/16 09:02 PM Re: South West Coast Path 2014 [Re: john57r]
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It is surprising how much accommodation is available without booking outside of the major school holidays. I agree with your comment about Elmscott Youth Hostel, we should also try and use other YH as they may continue to close along the walking trails in favour of the city centre locations.
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#407115 - 20/06/16 09:36 AM Re: South West Coast Path 2014 [Re: john57r]
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I guess that we will have to walk (run) a bit faster. See new record for the SWCP i.e. under 11 days - I thought 41 days was pretty good!:-

http://blog.cicerone.co.uk/2016/05/damian-hall-breaks-south-west-coast-path-record/
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