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#407196 - 03/08/16 11:00 PM Re: South West Coast Path 2014 [Re: Harland]
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Registered: 29/10/11
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Harland,
41 days isn't bad at all! Think I will end up at 36 days but in 3 sections. I do find these record breaking things a bit depressing (without taking anything away from the valiant record breaker). I feel a bit of a fraud drifting along at 2.2 miles an hour.
Anyway, hope you are well, and this is to say I am off on leg 2 soon; Saturday 3rd September to be precise.
Porthcurno to Wembury. Have got 10 days free. If I can do a bit more I will but am leaving Plymouth on Tuesday 13th September at 9.25am.
The outline plan is:
1Porthcurno to Marazion
2to Mullion
3to Coverack
4to Falmouth
5to Boswinger
Thereafter have got five days to do with as I please
Got hostels all the way to Boswinger ex Mullion ( Alma House closed apparently so got to find somewhere). After Boswinger will take it as it comes.
11 days to finish off next May; then a reverse PW in August 2017..or so the plan goes
Have you got your mileage charts to hand for this next bit?

ps: anyone want to join me for the odd section..more than welcome
john

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#407198 - 04/08/16 10:20 AM Re: South West Coast Path 2014 [Re: john57r]
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You are a speed merchant, my average speed over the whole route was 2.13 mph! I spent so much time looking for accommodation at Mullion Cove I should have continued to The Lizard and stayed at the youth hostel, may be worth a thought if you start early. Envious of you, I hope that you have good weather. My details shown below.


From -- To ----------------- Distance -- Cumulative -- Ascent -- Time - Avg.Speed
Porthcurno to Marazion --14.9 -------- 276.9 ---------1,817 -----7.5 ----1.99
Marazion to Mullion Cove 17.7 -------- 294.6 ---------2,848 -----7.8 ----2.28
Mullion Cove to Coverack 17.4 -------- 312.0 ---------3,475 -----8.0 ----2.18
Coverack to Falmouth-----23.1 -------- 335.1 ---------3,350 -----7.5 ----3.08
Falmouth to Portloe ------13.7 ---------348.8 ---------2,399 -----5.3 ----2.61
Portloe to Mevagissey ----12.3 ---------361.1 ---------2,375 -----7.5 ----1.64
Mevagissey to Par ---------11.5 ---------372.6 ---------2,326 -----5.2 ----2.23
Par to Polperro ------------13.1 ---------385.7 ---------2,730 -----6.8 ----1.94
Polperro to Portwrinkle --12.6 ---------398.3 ---------2,477 -----5.8 ----2.16
Portwrinkle to Plymouth -13.3 ---------411.6 ---------1,949 -----5.5 ----2.42
Plymouth to Down Thomas 12.8 -------424.4 ---------1,522 -----4.4 ----2.91
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#407199 - 04/08/16 04:05 PM Re: South West Coast Path 2014 [Re: john57r]
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The record attempts on our LDP's are jsu that to try and get along the route in the shortest possible time. They are far removed from normal long distance walking, they are not sight seeing trips taking in the scenery. Sure one would enjoy the scenery, but most will not register, the places passed through, when and where becomes blurred, the mileage and the clock are everything.
My own non stoppers and fast packing adventures, are a bit of both. Trying for a fast time, but also it's very important to me to enjoy the whole thing, scenery, wildlife, others along the route. I wouldn't enjoy the total head down, it has to be a combination of the two.
Dave.

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#407205 - 08/08/16 11:05 PM Re: South West Coast Path 2014 [Re: Harland]
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Pretty snappy on the Falmouth section Harland. Guess it is fairly easy hence the long distance that day. Can you recall if the Ferry at Helford runs most of the time ie close to low tide? I get that impression.
re the fast crossings Dave; yes I understand that they are different things. It just sort of nags away that what you take 10 days to do, fairly energetically, takes someone else three. Speaking of nagging away, the foot condition you suffer(ed?) from? does it commence with what feels like a dull ache within the pad of your heel like it is bruised?
John

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#407206 - 09/08/16 09:40 AM Re: South West Coast Path 2014 [Re: john57r]
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My journal probably gives the reason for my speed that day, no stopping early on to chat, take photos etc.

"All the way to Helford River it chucked it down, my waterproofs weren’t waterproof, my left boot let in copious amounts of water. I did wonder at this stage whether I would get to Falmouth at a reasonable time and in a reasonable state. Luckily the ferry was just coming in, after paying my £3 I was taken across the Helford River to Helford Passage. Shortly after leaving there at 14.15 the rain stopped and it remained clear for the rest of the day."

The Helford ferry web site shows:-

The ferry operates from Good Friday or 1st April to October 31st. The ferry will run on demand between 9:30 am and 5.00 pm. During July and August, the ferry may run into the evenings, however if you look at our facebook page : Helford River Boats Ltd, you will see daily updates, timetables, weather forecasts, etc.

Very occasionally, because of extreme weather, we have to cancel the ferry. This is unusual, but if storms are forecast it might be advisable to look at our facebook page or contact us before your journey on 01326 250770.

GOOD LUCK
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#407207 - 11/08/16 01:15 PM Re: South West Coast Path 2014 [Re: Harland]
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There does appear to be a bit of a problem with the ferry at low water I guess depending whether it is spring or neap tides. The tide tables are available from:-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/coast_and_sea/tide_tables/10/4a#tide-details

Or with this fishing one you can get further ahead:-

http://www.tides4fishing.com/uk/england/helford-river-entrance
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#407209 - 11/08/16 08:56 PM Re: South West Coast Path 2014 [Re: john57r]
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Originally Posted By: john57r
Speaking of nagging away, the foot condition you suffer(ed?) from? does it commence with what feels like a dull ache within the pad of your heel like it is bruised?
John


Yes John that's exactly how it starts. I tried all sorts to fix it, in the end I decided to simply wait it out as it's supposed to burn itself out in around 18 months to 2 years. Mine took 3 years and i still occasionally that slight bruised heel feeling after a long walk. Mine started with me noticing a slight heel bruise type of feeling which after about a month or so quickly then developed to significant pain. Even walking become non enjoyable due to the discomfort. It was at this point I sought the help of Podiatrists. After a few months of spending far too much money with them and expensive orthotics shoe inserts, I gave up with it all and went to my GP. he referred me. That then set off the long long procedure that you have to go through with the hospital, who after around a further year offered me 'shock Wave' treatment. This sort of re- injures the foot in the hope that the body's own healing will re-start. At this point my foot had at last begun to settle some, so I refused treatment and was discharged. It has continued to improve from then on, until today it is no longer a problem.
Dave.

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#407210 - 11/08/16 11:36 PM Re: South West Coast Path 2014 [Re: Harland]
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On the day I get to Helford (Sept 6th), low water is 15.10 hrs at 1.1 metres. The ferry's facebook page implied that stoppages were rare however the guide books suggest it is more common. I wont have time to walk around obviously and don't want to resort to motorised transport. It is just over 13 miles from Coverack so I imagine I will be there by 13.00 hrs even with a normal 8.00am start. Am hoping there will be enough water in the river to avoid any delays. May crack on a bit earlier to make sure

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#407211 - 11/08/16 11:44 PM Re: South West Coast Path 2014 [Re: Slogger]
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Got the bruised feeling after the first day of my last walk ( to Lynmouth) and put it down to being the first day on a rocky track. It went away. Felt it again about a fortnight ago after a 10 mile leg stretch ( not done much at all lately) and it has stayed. Not painful but there. Tend not to notice it when into my stride.
I had tendonitis for a couple of years Dave and it eventually disappeared after a year when I didn't do any LDWs. Guess it is the same issue of the body healing itself. The problem of course is resting up for years whilst the rest of you is deteriorating.
I guess you just keep going as best you can. Got all the fancy inserts from NHS when trying to sort the tendonitis. They certainly cushion things fairly well

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#407212 - 12/08/16 07:42 PM Re: South West Coast Path 2014 [Re: john57r]
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PF(Plantar Fasciitis) is generally associated with over-pronation, the rolling inwards of the foot and the usual constructiveness that physio's go down is to suggest a footbed orthotic to support the foot arch. However if you require it for specific distance walking, you will have to have one privately made with extra cushioning. This works for some people.
The reason it didn't work for me, in fact made things worse, is that my affected foot doesn't over-pronate, it suppinates, the exact opposite, it rolls outward placing the weight on the outer edge.
As just about all the teaching to physio's, podiatrists etc is based on over-pronation for this problem I have found it all but impossible to get through to them that in my case it is caused by the suppination. The last thing according to my own research that a suppinating foot needs is an 'arch support', yet all the orthotics I received from NHs to two private companies came with substantial arch support. If they read up on the latest research into this condition they would also discover that the term 'faciitis' is also wrong and should be re labelled 'fasciosis'. The difference being that 'itis' means inflamation whereas 'osis' means degeneration. A US study of thousands of cases of this problem revealed 'no' inflammation in cells but levels of degeneration in the tissue.
If your problem is PF the heel bruise feeling is usually worse on getting out of bed in the morning and in the very early stages it goes away within minutes but is worse when walking around barefoot (ie without any support).

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