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#406682 - 27/11/14 06:26 PM Headtorch thoughts..?
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As I'm looking for a new headtorch, I thought I'd post on here in an attempt to get some feedback.
My current models, both used for Coast to Coast and other outings, are both Petzl models - the Zipka2 (70gms), and as used last c2c the MyoXP. I also have the old Zoom but this is too heavy at 285gms with batteries.

Here's what I'm looking for:
1) under 100gms
2) must have 'lock off' capability (ie. cannot be accidentally sw'd on)
3) must be compact (ie. not like Myo)

I'm looking along the lines of the Princeton Tec Vizz, Petzl Tikka XP or even Fenix HL50.

Any thoughts welcome...
cheers
lwm
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#406684 - 03/12/14 05:39 PM Re: Headtorch thoughts..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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Hi Mick
Im not sure if it meets all your requirements but Coltswold stock a LED Lensor 'Neo' head torch that looks pretty good.
Its only 88g, maybe worth a look ?
Les

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#406686 - 05/12/14 11:15 AM Re: Headtorch thoughts..? [Re: Les + Heidi]
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Hi Les,
that is certainly light at 54gms without batteries - doesn't say whether it's lithium compatible - just asked via their online enquiry box here
cheers, thanks for that - this is one I'd not looked at yet and a good make - their H7 is well respected it appears
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#406688 - 08/12/14 10:56 AM Re: Headtorch thoughts..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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Hi Mick
Let us know what you decide on and how it goes. I have a Petzel one and its good but relatively 'heavy' for something I take in the pack but rarely use, its a just incase item for me so Im looking at getting something lighter myself for next summer
Les

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#406690 - 08/12/14 07:07 PM Re: Headtorch thoughts..? [Re: Les + Heidi]
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Hi Les - I love the old 'Zoom' and it would be great with a 100 lumen LED upgrade bulb - still too heavy mind. Be good for weekend use though. Petzl Micro looks good too (with the LED bulb) but still too heavy by today's standards.
I'll keep you posted mate.
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#406691 - 09/12/14 02:47 PM Re: Headtorch thoughts..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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cheers Mick

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#406692 - 13/12/14 04:53 PM Re: Headtorch thoughts..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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During last years Spine, I was well aware that other competitors had headtorches with a much more powerful beam than my Petzl Myo RXP. This started my search for my perfect headtorch. Although my requirements were not identical to what Mick is looking for.
I needed one which had a beam similar to my old Petzl Mega Zoom.
Had to be rechargeable and with a back of head battery pack.
A top of head band.
Ability to switch from rechargeable to normal AA batteries.
Had to have spare long cable, so's battery pack could be removed from head band and placed in pocket.
At first I purchased Black Diamond Storm which was a good light at 200 lumens, however I also discovered that when moving fast, units that carry the batteries in the light itself without a separate holder, bounce annoyingly up and down on the forehead.
Other consideration were Lensor and various predictive lighting ones, however I wanted full control, so those were discounted.
Eventually I received a good tip from a member of the Spine team with mega mountain, fell and country walking and climbing experience, 'The Suprabeam'. I got one inc spare Lithium rechargeable battery, extension cable, and separate AA battery holder. Wasn't cheap at 168.. altogether, but after a couple of uses inc a 14 miler along the PW last night, brilliant absolutely brilliant is what I say. The beam is so powerful and is as good as my old Mega Zoom, made the two guys that I was with lights beam look like a waste of time, they were using my the beam off my light too!
http://www.suprabeam.com/uk/products/v3r
Dave.

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#406693 - 13/12/14 04:56 PM Re: Headtorch thoughts..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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Meant to say that the units that carry the batteries in the light itself and 'without a top headband', bounce about.
Dave.

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#406697 - 15/12/14 02:32 PM Re: Headtorch thoughts..? [Re: Slogger]
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just ordered this one Dave.
Looks like a non rechargeable version of yours. Too heavy for what I'm wanting but will use it for my training in the dark - which usually means around 2hrs on h/lamp on Sundays,
cheers
mick
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#406698 - 15/12/14 08:20 PM Re: Headtorch thoughts..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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Yes mick it is the non rechargable version of mine at a super price. Just looked and mine is now available at 35.. less than what I paid, I should have waited!
I think you are going to be delighted with it, excellent build, just got to b careful if wearing a peaked cap with it. The button is underneath and easily switched off if it catches on the peak, apart from that absolutely brilliant. Yours is up to 250 lumens, which is the same as mine, minus the booster.
The separate normal battery holder was actually taken from a V3 as they don't do one specifically as an option for the V3r, but coincidentally the guy at where I got it from online, did the Spine last time, and had read my blog about the first one that I did for his preparation.
Prepare to be 'Beaming'!
Dave.

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#406701 - 18/12/14 10:36 AM Re: Headtorch thoughts..? [Re: Slogger]
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Thanks for the info Dave - are any of your mates using lithium AAA batteries in the standard battery packs do you know?

Torch Direct have the V3r at sale price... just 2 left - don't look though, argh!!
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#406702 - 19/12/14 03:33 PM Re: Headtorch thoughts..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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I don't know anyone else apart from you that is using this headtorch, apart from the member of the Spine team who rec'd it. The extra battery pack that I have takes AA Lithium batteries, as they claimed the AAA pack wouldn't be suitable as the performance would be too compromised.
Dave.

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#406712 - 05/01/15 05:43 PM Re: Headtorch thoughts..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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In preparation for the forthcoming Spine race, I have just tested the 'Suprabeam' to see how long the re-chargeable battery lasts.
I switched it on for an evening walk on Saturday at 4.45pm and set it to a similar output as the Petzl Myo RXP. I did the walk and left it on that setting, remaining switched on. About half an hour ago I got fed up of waiting for it to run out so changed it 'Boost' a full 300 lumen. It finally gave up on that a few minutes later, but continued to give light on the earlier setting. I switched it off an now have it on charge. It lasted 48 hours on that setting and still wasn't quite finished. Of course with cooler temps outdoors it wouldn't last as long, but then I do have the longer lead to allow me to place the battery in a pocket, so well pleased.
Dave.

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#406725 - 08/01/15 01:55 PM Re: Headtorch thoughts..? [Re: Slogger]
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Mine doesn't have a 'lock-off' function Dave, does yours?
The Myo at least does have (mechanical - ie. sw is covered) a lock-off function. Because the Supra comes recommended I was assuming it would have lock-off...
not a good feature on multi-dayers
otherwise, yep it's bright, and the zoom is a neat function but I don't like that 'ring effect' and lack of peripheral illumination... jury's still out lol
Good look for the weekend mate though - will be following progress,
cheers
mick
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#406793 - 05/03/15 01:56 AM Re: Headtorch thoughts..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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meant to say 'luck' there of course...

As it turns out I've been unplugging the lamp unit as lock-off.

Two points worth noting if this method is adopted:
1) plug it back in before it gets too dark as the locating red spot can't be seen in the dark (which determines right way round for correct fit) - it only fits one way round but it's damn fiddly.
2) be sure NOT to catch the ON/OFF button when plugging in as you won't be able to see anything at all for quite a while after!! Better to make sure light is pointing away from your eyes!
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#406794 - 05/03/15 07:30 PM Re: Headtorch thoughts..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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I was using the unplug method during the Spine, at least you can do that with this unit.
The 'r' unit doesn't really need a lock off as such, unless your are storing it in the sack really tight against something because there is a couple of seconds delay after pressing the switch before the light comes on, so an accidental touch won't do anything. Best to unplug though, and I know what you mean re locating it.
I didn't really notice the 'ring' effect, as I had the beam quite narrow and that does away completely with inner 'ring' although the wide outer one is still present, I wasn't aware of it.

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#406799 - 05/03/15 11:41 PM Re: Headtorch thoughts..? [Re: Slogger]
lightweightmick Offline
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I don't notice it as much now Dave, but in certain conditions it seems to draw your attention away at times... hard to describe really... certainly quite a bit brighter though
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#406800 - 06/03/15 06:44 PM Re: Headtorch thoughts..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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The 'halo' effect is really weird when distance walking during the dark hours. I have experienced on numerous occasions the 'enclosed' feeling. Last year walking across the vast expanse of bog after Tan Hill, alone at night. I was convinced that I had passed through a densely wooded area, the same thing again this year dropping off Great Shunner fell. In fact there are no trees anywhere near! It's just the lit up area you are focusing on surrounded by blackness.

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