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#407438 - 29/03/21 05:56 PM 7lbs Base Weight..?
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For me it's 'new money' for the small end and 'old money' for the bigger end as I still can't imagine kilos -(unless in terms of bags of sugar..?)- but know what lbs feel like. As there's 28.4 of the little ones to one-sixthteenth of the bigger ones it gets more accurate. I jest with people that we should now be going back to avoirdupois what with our current situation (us being Europeans an' all) and that we never really gave it up, what with pints (remember those?) and miles-per-hour because it was going to cost too much to change all the road signs, but I get that blank look and change the subject...

So, lbs and grams it is then...

As I'm currently 67 of the little ones under 7 of the big ones which in total comes to 3175 of the little ones, it's looking good... and if you're with me so far you must be a lightweighter.

Incidently, it's the same with miles and kilometers. Those damn pesky kms! There's an awful lot more km in a day than miles, and you don't want big numbers in your head when you have to cover them on foot... like the time I arrived in Reeth waiting for the shop to open with 3 dutch lads who wanted to know how far I'd come... lets face it over 60km sounds a damn sight more than 40 miles and that was just day one... Then plodding on to Marske, as I chewed on my family-sized quiche, I couldn't stop converting what I'd got left to go with an ankle injury into kilometers. I think that was 2015's effort - didn't end well. Best not to engage with others on the trail if you ask me...

However, I'm pretty sure there are those out there that are interested in this 'ere flimsy kit, so let's get down to it.

Disclaimer: Do not regard anything that follows as advice. I do not advocate that anyone set out into the hills ill-prepared. Go with what your experience dictates.
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#407439 - 30/03/21 12:27 AM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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So, if I live long enough, the plan is to be more self-sufficient with a tent and see if I could carry a bit more 'snap'.
With 10lbs as a maximum, I should get a few meals in with a 7lb base weight of strictly Summer kit, and if the back holds out, get some running in as well, and, if we get chance, who knows, I might even enjoy it..?

If you like to carry the kitchen sink look away now...

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Modified Cuben Fiber Terra Nova Laser 20 - 118 gms


I think they stopped making these..? Got a used one - VGC said the guy selling it. I think he forgot that he'd cut the webbing on the shoulder straps and knotted the ends. It wouldn't fit on arrival (137 gms) - must have a shorter back than me... So I managed to unpick the knots and gain 3" either side. It now fits, however, if I'm not careful there's nowt to stop the straps passing straight through the buckles. A bit of adjustment there is good as the tiny hip belt actually works with such little kit.
The other thing he forgot to mention was the small tear near one of the shoulder straps, which needs some repair tape.
So far the mods are whistle and chest strap removal. There's far too much spare on the waist/hip belt which offers opportunity to shave off a few more grams. Indeed I'd like to shave away those 18 gms and 100gms is a really nice round figure.
Worth noting the CF version differs from the std version (which served me well on my sub 4 day effort in 2016) in that there are no hip belt pockets and a flap top covering a drawstring closure instead of a roll-top affair. Maybe they didn't think the cuben would stand up to repeated screwing up for the continued rolling and unrolling closure. Dunno.
It's good, comfortable (more on that under 'Ground Insuation'), though looks like it could fall apart at any moment... but then it only has to last a few days of Neverland.

Phone Pouch - previously Inov-8 - 20gms - experimenting with heat sealed plastic. Yesterday's attempt better than last week's effort (both weighed in at just) 4gms. Thing is I couldn't access the phone without unfastening hip belt making OTMA poor (an improvement on the previous attempt where I couldn't get the phone back in at all...) Need to make a third one a bit bigger or go back to arm mount pouch...

From previous kit list then potential weight saving on sack and phone pouch - 115 gms.

Dry Bag - 20 gms (max) Usually I've a stuff sack for everything, but it makes sense just to have the one and keep all 'dry' stuff in one place as I've never needed to access the down vest OTM. I can't get a waterproof phone bank in my weight allowance either (max 180gms - 3 chgs), so maybe there's room in this one dry bag..? - ongoing.

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#407440 - 31/03/21 03:18 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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#407441 - 31/03/21 03:26 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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#407442 - 31/03/21 03:40 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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#407443 - 31/03/21 03:54 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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Interest in the Nordisk Lofoten piqued on discovering it had a declared race weight of under 500gms which could just work out better than my tarp/midge net tent arrangement and be a bit less draughty. An hour later, lo and behold, at 2am I discovered an as-new one for sale on the bay...

I've seen it described as 'flimsy' and more like a bivvy bag (whoever said that has not spent long in a bivvy bag...)
I can't comment on the 'flimsy' yet, as, like it's previous cyclist owner, it's only ever been set up in the garden. I wouldn't describe it as flimsy myself, but with carbon fibre poles it could only be considered 'flimsier' to those who would consider it so...

to be continued as time permits.
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#407444 - 31/03/21 03:59 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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Apologies for the blanks earlier.
Was being harrassed by my 18 yr old cat who's gone blind, so whether he pressed something or the post was just too long to post I dunno... I'll try and get a bit more on later.
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#407445 - 01/04/21 01:36 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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#407446 - 01/04/21 01:50 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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#407447 - 01/04/21 01:59 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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#407448 - 01/04/21 02:00 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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#407449 - 01/04/21 02:01 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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Inner and outer come tied (thin dyneema) together. Be interesting to separate them just to see how the outer works more as a tarp.
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#407450 - 01/04/21 03:47 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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#407451 - 01/04/21 03:49 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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#407452 - 01/04/21 03:54 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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#407453 - 01/04/21 03:54 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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#407454 - 01/04/21 03:55 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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#407455 - 01/04/21 04:05 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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hmm, interesting...
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#407456 - 01/04/21 04:11 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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#407457 - 01/04/21 04:18 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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I think the problem you are having is cutting and pasting - I had a similar problem once. You need to type it straight into the site.
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#407458 - 01/04/21 04:28 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: Harland]
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Thank you Harland. Just about come to the same conclusion myself, though I don't recall problems in the past with that... I realised it was a font issue, but couldn't understand why. Maybe the software for the UBB has been updated..? Just done a quick internet search - looks like you are right as far as I can see as only certain codes are recognised. Thanks again.
Don't know why I'm bothering really - I'm sure people have better things to do. I certainly have right now and I'd better get going...
I was going to do a blog and link to it, but that's another pfaff!
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#407459 - 02/04/21 01:49 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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Test 1:
The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. - typed directly into edit box.
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#407460 - 02/04/21 01:56 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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Test 2:
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog - copy and pasted straight into edit box from unsaved Notepad file without final edit in box.
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#407461 - 02/04/21 02:01 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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Test 3:
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog - copy and pasted from saved as .txt ext Notepad file.
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#407462 - 02/04/21 02:04 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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Hmm, interesting. I wasn't expecting that last one to work until I saved it as 'all files' ext as you would for working with HTML...
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#407463 - 02/04/21 02:11 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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On the first post on this thread I'm pretty sure I used the sites own edit function before posting ie. making some of the text bold...
I'm thinking of incompatibility issues of Unicode (this laptop Windows 10 and the UBB on this site is no longer supported..?) but as my 'tame expert' has long flown the nest I'm down to simple experimentation.
The day is not far away when I could get as far as Richmond and forget which way I'm going and start heading back to the Bay!
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#407464 - 02/04/21 02:15 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: Harland]
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Apologies Harland. When I replied saying 'font' I mean't to convey the way the text is saved not the style as such but the code that is used to save the text.
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#407465 - 02/04/21 02:36 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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#407466 - 02/04/21 02:37 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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huh, well so much for that!
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#407467 - 02/04/21 02:40 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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#407468 - 02/04/21 02:49 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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saving as ANSI instead of UTF-8 don't work either...
I'm intrigued...
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#407469 - 02/04/21 02:50 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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#407470 - 02/04/21 02:51 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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Nope... tried C&P from another text editor.
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#407471 - 02/04/21 02:57 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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#407472 - 02/04/21 03:06 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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#407473 - 02/04/21 03:17 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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ha ha, so last 2 attempts - via Notepad++ and then a code converter from utf-8 to ascii (thought I'd cracked it as the " inches symbol came up as different characters...
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#407474 - 02/04/21 03:24 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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Pole Set (5x18 inches + inc.rear) Custom 3.9 CF Pole set - 73 gms

As the carbon fibre pole set aquisition would make a long tedious read I'll skip ahead... Suffice it to say that 5 x 18" poles work but there's an overall loss of height on the arch of around 1". The original alloy 13 section pole set comes with 5 prebent centre sections at around 180 gms. Makes a neat pocket-fitting affair (if you got big pockets...) but all those pole inserts add up. The 18" CF poles do protrude from the sack though, but if lightweight is the aim there is a price to be paid somewhere

*as previous - replacing inches symbols...
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#407475 - 02/04/21 03:30 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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Whoah! Success - so through text code converter, which highlighted the " symbol, which may be the cause of the problem (or may not..?), and then removing the 2 symbols that the converter inserted instead seems to have made the difference.

Out of time again now though...
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#407476 - 02/04/21 03:32 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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er, but than why aren't the other " symbols a problem..?
Could it be because the first was with UBB bold commands?
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#407477 - 02/04/21 03:33 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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Test Inches as " in bold
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#407478 - 05/04/21 12:58 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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...I asked Quest for their opinion on how well shorter sections would flex for shorter sections for the arch, but they didn't respond. To be fair, if they did advise and a pole did happen to crack, they could have comebacks. So you're on your own. (the Syclone set from Tentpole Tech is 7 section with more manageable pole lengths with a prebent alu centre section) - when I get around to getting another set I'll have a go at shortening the 3.9 poles just out of interest. I reckon a 7 pole set would work now having seen how flexible the 18" sections are, but you then have the extra insert weight, so, for now I'm sticking with the 18" - and just stay mindful of the exposed ends... A 7 section 3.9 set should come in at under 100gms though.
Drapers elastic used for shock cord - think it's around 1.5mm.
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#407479 - 05/04/21 01:03 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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... The end pieces are subject to a whole article... Nordisk chose to go with a ball & socket arrangement for the ends and theirs actually screw into the pole's end. Tent Pole Tech had push fit alu ball ends to fit the Syclone, but I don't think they have them to fit the smaller dia 3.9. Quest don't have them, but said they'll look into it.
So the solution is to drill a plastic ball and fit it onto the end of the std end piece inserts. If you got a lathe you are well set - I used a hand drill, and it's pure luck how central you can drill thal 9mm ball! Mine were a little oversize (came from a Wilko's cupboard child locks with 10mm ball ends) and needed turning down to 9.2mm to make a good click fit - not an easy feat with a hand held drill lol. But they seem secure enough. Another option would be to aquire some of the larger Syclone fittings and get them turned down to fit the 3.9 tube as the ball's the right size (and they would be stronger), also you could adapt the ones supplied, but you may well want to preserve the integrity of the original set-up.
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#407480 - 05/04/21 01:10 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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Pole Bag (plastic)- 3gms - not yet confirmed

Pegs (titanium:3*5g + 7*2g) in self-seal bag - 29 gms
Minimal - could well swap a few of those at last minute for some of the original V pegs supplied...

All this reduces the 'race weight' to 469 gms, which is pretty good for a tent, though there those that will insist it will blow away were you to sneeze within a hundred yards of it.

The other thing to note about the Lofoten is the incredibly slippery sil nylon. Stuff or roll? That is the question. When I go for roll, I think stuff would be better, but then when stuffing seem to revert to thinking rolling's better... I just need to find a consistent method for getting it back into its small stuff sack...


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#407481 - 09/04/21 01:43 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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Ground Insulation

Mylar Footprint - 20 gms
Groundsheet protection.

Klymit Inertia X Lite (modified) - 161gms
173 gms as delivered - air pump valve removed - apparently these can be further modified, though there's not much to modify! Resealed using repair kit. Later version has a declared weight of 152 gms...

Ridgerest off-cut (pack insert) - 27 gms
As pack insert to add some form. Ridges help with air flow over a flat foam pad. Sadly inaccessible on move to use as sit mat.

Reflective Thin foam Underlay - 35 gms
As sit mat folded, otherwise leg insulation under sleeping bag.

Total 243 gms - all itmes double as emergency warm wear.

Potential for 234 gms..?

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#407482 - 09/04/21 02:52 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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#407483 - 12/04/21 12:00 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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Well it doesn't always work... The last empty box was some extra thoughts on Ground Insulation - typed straight into box not copy and paste...
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#407484 - 12/04/21 12:15 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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Well that worked so:

Sleeping Bag:
PHD Minim 900 (no zip) modified by replacing drawcord with draper's elastic and smaller toggle (which does take some feeling about for in the dark...)

Stuff bag - still working on this - now favouring a dry bag liner (just for essential dry items) made out of thicker bin liner with heat sealer, with a thinner stuff bag to fit inside. With a stronger outer bag stuff bag can be forced in sideways which aids compression and seals stuff bag.
Also in stuff bag my super light homemade silk liner at 45 gms. With the compression effect of the outer dry bag it doesn't take up any more space.

Total: 457 gms (includes stuff bag but not dry bag wt.)

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#407485 - 12/04/21 01:11 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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Berghaus Vapour light (Lge) 80 gms
Disp. O/Trousers (emergency use only) 45gms
Total: 125 gms
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#407486 - 12/04/21 01:11 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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I have yet to succeed in getting overtrousers on before getting wet! The worse conditions ever encountered on the c2c (or anywhere else for that matter) was when I went W-E via Hard Knott and Wrynose - cutting over the hill to Greenburn what I described at the time as a 'wall of water' came over the ridge. I did manage to get the brolly up and hold onto it cowering in the lee of a lge boulder.
Chilled and soaked to the skin, it was a miserable descent to the bridge over the beck... and still left a wet patch of floor in the hotel at Waterhead after a further 7m. Later that year of course they suffered water issues of their own that no overtrousers would put right.
Of course, getting wet's not the problem, but the chilling it causes most certainly is! So more windproofs than waterproofs then...
Putting jkts and overtrousers on too early is not good for ultra pedding. Too many times I pass over clad walkers puffing uphill using vital energy stores in lost sweat! The saying 'stay cool' wasn't invented by hippies, more likely track runners who learned to ditch track suits. I used to know a guy who believed the more you sweat in a workout the more effect gained. I tried to tell him that all he was doing was acclimatising himself to elevated body heat during exercise, but to no avail - he still thinks the more he sweats the 'better' his workout...
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#407487 - 15/04/21 02:00 AM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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...and so to the 'cooking stuff'.
Anyone who's followed the 5 day thread will know that I have, as Ronald Turnbull succinctly puts it 'failed at the eating' a few times in the past in relying on others to put food in front of me (good when it works...) So in an effort to be more self-reliant the plan was to carry more of the 'cooking stuff'.
I haven't carried a pan other than the upcycled alu dog food tray for many years, mainly for a hot drink or to add hot water to some instant mash or porridge...
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#407488 - 15/04/21 02:14 AM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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I recently bought some meths with the idea of reviving the Trangia, but as yet have failed to find the damn thing. Over the years I experimented with all manner of alu can stoves and had pretty good results with a vaseline tin with holes in it... but realising that you will struggle to turn round a quick wayside brew with anything other than gas, I stayed with various pocket rocket style burners - forward progress being more the name of the game than sitting about coaxing heat out of liquids, or solids for that matter...
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#407489 - 16/04/21 04:49 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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So then, the quest for a half decent self-prepped meal:

Jet Boil Stash (pan, handle and lid only) - 147g

Burner Unit - BRS300T (wrapped in j-cloth offcut) - 26g
(needs slight modification ie. bending ends of the 3 arm pan supports to fit between the heat exchanger on the bottom of the pan - to me 59 gms for the original burner suggests they could have put a bit more effort in there..?)
(Note - the burner unit is closer to the base of the pan than the orginal, but it works for me...)

Windshield (Alpro carton offcut) - 7g
(thought this would ignite along top edge but so far not even singed - the metalised card seems to reflect the heat away)

Zap-It (as igniter) - 8gms
(a slight mod to allow gas to 'get around' the contacts seems to help with better ignition - ie. 5mm drill to take away a little of the plastic between)
This unit needs a little bit shaving off to help it fit into the gas bottle cannister cavity under the snap-on lid, though not as much as you need to remove from the Optimus Sparky, which can be made to fit with the aid of a bench grinder... Original wt of the Sparky is 14g - mine's now 12g and does fit snugly, but the Zap-It is that bit lighter. Not got to the cooking yet so could go with either. Doubles for insect bite treatment - does seem to work in reducing itching.

Spare Sealed matches - not acc. for yet. est 5gms

Full 100 size gas - 188 gms (tare seems to vary a little from cannister to cannister, but you always get a full 100g of gas, or a little more. Last cannister tare was 85g, but that last bit of gas is useless anyway...)

Sm. Wash-up Kit (dry wt.) - 15gms

Citronella T light (part) - 8 gms
(insect repellant as I plan on staying low)
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#407490 - 16/04/21 05:46 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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Spoon (original with long handle) 9 gms - usual ubreakable plastic - and a 'new' one from the picnic set I bought years ago. Maybe I can afford the luxury of a full length handle** as I'm a full 100 gms under target..? But if something creeps in at last minute like the luxury of some underpants, or any pants for that matter, it'll get cut down...

Snack Pot Bowl - 15 gms
Original wt 18 gms. Must be 20 yrs old now - amazingly durable! - from Morrisons with some kind of just add water instant mash meal. Got to thinking that two the handles not really needed, so cut one off and quite a bit of the lip. Thinking I could mix up tsampa in this, or be having my usual muesli mix while water is heating for filling the following:

Sigg Gemstone IBT Thermos - (declared wt. by Sigg 288 gms) - (some say 285... no wonder I can't get to sleep at night lol) - not arrived yet...
Turning round that first brew stop quick is a big moral booster. In training, I can be on my way again in 5 minutes with a flask, setting the stove up can take as long as 20 mins. But it's also very useful for cooking pasta and rice - ie. macaroni cooks very quickly, but the cooking itself is the subject of another thread...

Water/drink OTM: Plastic Bottle 21g (and contents of above)

Destination use: Wine Box bladder (modified) 27 gms - capacity 925ml*
From the cider making hobby - clear double skinned plastic that heat seals well. Not sure how well a wine box foil type would heat seal? though crisp bags seal very well, where space blanket mylar sheet doesn't. Was going to go with the 500ml platypus type that came with the Sawyer Filter, But I reckon the extra few grams could be worth it. Heatsealed the bag with a carry handle so that it could be used as a shower, but not tried this yet as it would be better with some kind of shower head attached.
(Note - it's not easy to remove the tap unit from a wine box, but with a couple of BLUNT knives and a bit of patience it is possible. The secret to re-use is not to push the tap unit in all the way)

* intended to be a full litre, but as I used the Sawyer bottle as a guide when doing the heat sealing it isn't - especially as I only realised later the Sawyer bottle is only 500ml...

** I was reading an account of some ultra competitor who recommends using long-handled cutlery to avoid contamination of food at mealtimes. Advice surely worth noting, especially after my roadside episode on the bike-hike...

Next up - Spare and Warm Wear
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#407491 - Yesterday at 02:27 AM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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#407492 - Yesterday at 02:30 AM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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#407493 - Yesterday at 08:30 AM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: lightweightmick]
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That is what happens trying to post in the early hours - too much cider?
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#407494 - Today at 12:59 PM Re: 7lbs Base Weight..? [Re: Harland]
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As it 'appens lad...
Birthday celebrations - not the cider though - evil stuff. The Romans understood apples and cider very well - hence the connotations with malum/malus...
The son-in-law is horrified that I've gone on to 0% lager, and that I dilute the cider with spring water these days, even more so that I've declared these last few batches could well be the last! Lifting those 30L fermenters/pins don't help and grubbing about in hedge bottoms for the wilds...
'tis high in Vit C though... and keeps the teeth clean.

The late hour was more down to the 14.5% Argentinian Malbec... and as they were having some Thai chicken dish I knocked up a quick (maybe too quick...) chilli non carne, which turned out to be something of a rib sticker.

The Sigg Gemstone flask has arrived - 286g on scales. Wt includes cup (53g), which is good... you can't trust stated weights, so when actually under it's a pleasant surprise.
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