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#43327 - 09/09/08 09:48 AM Yorkshire Three Peaks
Janice & Rottie Offline
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Hi,

My sister and I were walking The Yorkshire Three Peaks next weekend. She has done it last year and I did it many many moons ago. Unfortunately she has broken her arm and therefore I am doing it alone.

Could anyone tell me the best route to take from Pen Y Ghent to the Horton road. I remember there are 3 ways, a lower one past Sell Gill andd Jackdaw Hill, a middle one past Hull Pot and a more northern one. Bearing in mind how one can be slowed down by bog and I know it will be boggy,please can anyone recommend the best way across?

Thanks.
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#43328 - 09/09/08 01:52 PM Re: Yorkshire Three Peaks [Re: Janice & Rottie]
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hi Janice & Rottie
we always tried to go by Sell Gill Holes,
but it is boggy, i have know times when we have gone from tuft to tuft only to run out of tufts and when we turned round the tuft's we had come on , had sunk . so the only thing to do was make a run for it.
i would not fancy it now the weather we have had this year,
having said that if we were to get a dry fornight it may improve
anyway if you do go i hope you have a good walk.
when you say your sister has broken her arm, tell her to get well soon
when a mate put his shoulder out when were walking in the |lake District, we were all for sending him home, but the Doctor said there was no need as he did not walk on his hands
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#43329 - 09/09/08 02:11 PM Re: Yorkshire Three Peaks [Re: tim smith]
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Hi Ern,

Thanks for the input.

Well no chance of the dry weather...raining every day according to the forecast.

I think all routes will be boggy, it is just working out which will be the lesser of 3 evils. I have to do it now as I have quite a few sponsors all asking when I am doing it.

I will pass on your regards to my sister. Unfortunately, as well as breaking her arm she badly wrenched her back at the same time which is the main reason she is unable to do it with me.

No worries though. I will still have a good walk, especially once I have hit the Horton road.
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#43336 - 09/09/08 11:53 PM Re: Yorkshire Three Peaks [Re: Janice & Rottie]
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I usually go for the most northerly route,bu there is a wide boggy area en route which will be exepceptionally difficult due to recent weather so perhaps the most sotutherly route would be better at this time.
Dave.

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#43348 - 10/09/08 01:53 PM Re: Yorkshire Three Peaks [Re: Slogger]
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Thanks Dave,

Looking at the map the southerly route towards Sell Gill Holes and Jackdaw Hill may be the longest but it is the shortest in terms of probable boggy ground. So it may prove quicker in the end. I will go for that and hope I can find the path ok.

Thanks Guys.
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#43460 - 25/09/08 07:44 AM Re: Yorkshire Three Peaks [Re: Janice & Rottie]
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Hi Janice,
Did you have ago at the 3 Peaks as intended? With the weather looking ok for this weekend I may just have ago myself, I was wandering which way you took to the Horton Road to avoid the worst of the bog?
Robbie

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#43486 - 28/09/08 04:28 PM Re: Yorkshire Three Peaks [Re: Robbie]
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Picked an excellent day on Saturday to walk the 3 Peaks, almost perfect weather. Started at Ribblehead and took on Whernside first, then onto Ingleborough and what felt like that almost vertical climb after Humphrey Bottom. The walk down into Horton was superb, for me probably the highlight of the day. Next, to Penyghent, by far the busiest of the peaks. I then went for the route north of Hull Pot via Black Dub Moss Bog which fortunatly wasn't too bad, no up to your knees/waist in bog moments. Then back to Ribblehead and a pint of Black Sheep. All done in under 9 hours. Interestingly most people I met attempting the 3 Peaks were going the other way round, Ingleborough-Whernside-Penyghent.
All in all, a fantastic experience but not one likely to be attempted again soon!
Robbie

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#43487 - 28/09/08 06:30 PM Re: Yorkshire Three Peaks [Re: Robbie]
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Robbie,
under 9hours well done !
i suppose you would not call in at the cafe in Horton-in-Ribblesdale,
we used to start from there, they had a clock, to clock you in and out.
i don't suppose Peter Boyes is still there, i reckon he will have retired by now.
regards
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#43488 - 28/09/08 07:19 PM Re: Yorkshire Three Peaks [Re: tim smith]
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I had a cup of tea at the cafe, plenty of sugar, not the pint mug that's on offer though. The clocking in system is still in operation but I had always planned to start at Ribblehead to avoid the masses. If you want to buy any of the "official" 3 Peaks merchandise and join the club you have to clock in and out at the cafe, non clocker inners are not permitted to buy the mugs, t-shirts etc. So I guess my time is "unofficial". That is of little consequence to me, I took some half decent photo's and have made my own reminder of the day.
Robbie

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#43494 - 29/09/08 09:10 AM Re: Yorkshire Three Peaks [Re: Robbie]
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Originally Posted By: Robbie
I had a cup of tea at the cafe, plenty of sugar, not the pint mug that's on offer though. The clocking in system is still in operation but I had always planned to start at Ribblehead to avoid the masses. If you want to buy any of the "official" 3 Peaks merchandise and join the club you have to clock in and out at the cafe, non clocker inners are not permitted to buy the mugs, t-shirts etc. So I guess my time is "unofficial". That is of little consequence to me, I took some half decent photo's and have made my own reminder of the day.
Robbie


What exactly is '"official" 3 Peaks merchandise'?

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#43496 - 29/09/08 10:50 AM Re: Yorkshire Three Peaks [Re: Lounge Lizard]
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L.L.
what is the ''official'' 3 Peaks merchandise.
well here in Yorkshire if there is a bob to made, Yorkshire men will find it.So when people walk a challenge walk, they like to have a little memento, so the Yorkshire men decided to have a club for a lot of challenge walks, the Three Peaks of Yorkshire have a badge with three Peaks on and the wording Three Peaks of Yorkshire Club, the Lyke Wake Walk Club has a badge with a black coffin on
the coffin has a white border and a candle on , a star at the top and bottom of the candle, i think the star was to represent the triangulation pillars at both ends of the walk, then again i could be wrong.you could buy ties and other paraphernalia to adorn your self or your rucksack.
having completed the L.W.W. walk one becomes a dirger in the club, and the more you complete the more degrees you are entilted to , from Master or Mistress of Misery(black neck bands ), to Doctor of Dolefulness(purple bands)
The Lyke Wake Walk Club use to hold a wake twice a year,
midsummers eve and 31st'' of October,
i think you may get more info about the L.W.W. club from one of the Puckrin brothers.
then there is The White Rose Walk, it has a badge with the White Rose of Yorkshire, with a rough triangle at the top, representing Rosebery Topping, the start. and superimposed on the triangle is a White Horse, representing the finish at the White Horse of Kilburn
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#43498 - 29/09/08 03:58 PM Re: Yorkshire Three Peaks [Re: tim smith]
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what is the ''official'' 3 Peaks merchandise

Ern has it about right. In the Pen-y-ghent cafe at Horton there is a display with the merchandise on. I remember seeing a couple of mugs (how appropriate) with the words 3 Peaks challenge on, t-shirts saying pretty much the same and sew on patches and possibly key-rings. Next to all this was a sign saying only available to purchase if you clocked out and in at the cafe, the official starting point I guess. I believe you can also send a way for a tie and certificate if your clocking in card shows you have completed the walk in 12 hours or less.
Robbie

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#43499 - 29/09/08 05:09 PM Re: Yorkshire Three Peaks [Re: Robbie]
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I understand now. You Yorkshire people well know that there's a lot of people out there with more money than sense and so you make an honest bob or two out of them.

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#43502 - 30/09/08 09:35 AM Re: Yorkshire Three Peaks [Re: Lounge Lizard]
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Hi, sorry I have taken so long to reply but have been away.

Yes I did it a couple of Fridays ago. It was a perfect day and took 8 hrs 13 mins according to the Cafe print out. Coming down from Pen Y Ghent I followed the PW to the track for Horton, then headed west as planned to Sell Gill and Jackdaw Hill. I then turned back onto the PW track and followed that to where it met the other routes across the moss from Pen Y Ghent.

This was definitely a good choice of route for the conditions at the time. We had had days and days of rain so I chose this way. Although a little soft underfoot I did not have to lose time and energy finding a way through the bog. It was only a short stretch before I was on a proper good track again (the PW). I spoke to a couple who went via Hull Pot, and ended up to their knees, losing the path and floundering for an hour. They were not doing the whole of the walk but they were quite dispirited.

The Pen Y Ghent cafe is a dream at the end..that pint mug of tea and toasted tea cake revives one wonderfully.
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#43504 - 30/09/08 06:02 PM Re: Yorkshire Three Peaks [Re: Janice & Rottie]
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Janice,

8hrs 13mins, top effort, I am most impressed (my time was 8hrs 40mins). As I mentioned I went the most northerly route across Black Dub Moss and as long as you were careful it was easy to miss the main boggy bits with only a few slight diversions required . The path was very clear, at times it must have been a 15 metre wide track cleary showing the walk must take a heck of a pounding in the summer months.
Robbie

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#43506 - 01/10/08 01:43 PM Re: Yorkshire Three Peaks [Re: Robbie]
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Hi Robbie,

Well done to you too. I'm glad you didn't have to detour too much around the bog. The people who went via Hull Pot actually lost the track completely !! I think the middle route is most popular because it is possibly the shortest, being the most direct, but results in a huge wide boggy trail.

Whilst the southerly route I took is definitely the longest, I would certainly take it again.
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#43508 - 01/10/08 03:30 PM Re: Yorkshire Three Peaks [Re: Janice & Rottie]
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I thought there was only one walkers official route. I mean times can only be compared, when walking the same route after all. I know the 3 Peaks Fell race use a different variation to the walking route. Does this mean some, when walking follow the race route up Whernside instead of going up the slabs further round. If so, it seems to me a bit like the chap I met during my recent PW, who missed out Pen Y Ghent, but probably still claimed to have walked the PW when he finished at Kirk Yetholme.
Dave.

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#43509 - 01/10/08 04:09 PM Re: Yorkshire Three Peaks [Re: Slogger]
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i think there is no official route for the three peaks,
as long as you reach the summit of each peak with in 12 hours
you can claim to have done the threwe peaks of Yorkshire.
i was told many years ago that you could drive in a car to the nearest point of any one, walk to the top and down back to your car.and repeat the process for all three peaks and you could say you had done the three peaks.
Sloogger when you say that a chap had missed out Pen y Ghent on the P.W. he is only kidding his self.
years ago when i did the Three Peaks, Snowdon, Scafell and Ben Nevis,
it was only my word for it, the organizers did not have anyone on top checking
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#43510 - 01/10/08 04:47 PM Re: Yorkshire Three Peaks [Re: tim smith]
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I always understood that there was no "official" route, but just that you had to attain all 3 in the 12 hours to become a member of the club.

I think most people go up the slabs now because the original route up the south face was very badly eroded and a sign went up discouraging people from using it. I used to die going up that way when I was younger.

I did the big three peaks a few years ago Tim but as it was an organised event there were people clocking you en route!!!
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#43511 - 01/10/08 05:59 PM Re: Yorkshire Three Peaks [Re: tim smith]
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Originally Posted By: tim smith
i think there is no official route for the three peaks,
as long as you reach the summit of each peak with in 12 hours
you can claim to have done the threwe peaks of Yorkshire.
i was told many years ago that you could drive in a car to the nearest point of any one, walk to the top and down back to your car.and repeat the process for all three peaks and you could say you had done the three peaks.
Sloogger when you say that a chap had missed out Pen y Ghent on the P.W. he is only kidding his self.
years ago when i did the Three Peaks, Snowdon, Scafell and Ben Nevis,
it was only my word for it, the organizers did not have anyone on top checking


If you can use a car, why not a helicopter ?
It's all a bit pointless if you don't have to rely on your legs.

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#43512 - 01/10/08 06:58 PM Re: Yorkshire Three Peaks [Re: Lounge Lizard]
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L.L.
i do not think the majority of walkers have access to a helicopter.
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#43514 - 02/10/08 05:38 AM Re: Yorkshire Three Peaks [Re: tim smith]
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Originally Posted By: tim smith
L.L.
i do not think the majority of walkers have access to a helicopter.


Correct - but the wealthiest ones do.
Julia Bradbury must have one, otherwise all her programmes wouldn't include frequent views of her from above.
.
Yesterday I completed the Three Peaks Walk in 16 minutes.
Is this a record ?
( I often find Google Earth very useful )

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#43515 - 02/10/08 08:16 AM Re: Yorkshire Three Peaks [Re: Lounge Lizard]
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L.L.
did you enjoy doing it on google
will have a go .it maybe better than some of the dvd,s i have seen of the long distance walks
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#43518 - 02/10/08 01:29 PM Re: Yorkshire Three Peaks [Re: tim smith]
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And less boggy ! Bet you didn't get your pint mug of tea at the end !!!
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#43520 - 02/10/08 03:49 PM Re: Yorkshire Three Peaks [Re: Janice & Rottie]
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Originally Posted By: Janice & Rottie
And less boggy ! Bet you didn't get your pint mug of tea at the end !!!


Certainly less boggy - and with working in the rain several hours most days lately I thought I would stay dry for a while.
A pint mug of tea would never tempt me to do anything - but a decent pint of beer, that's a different matter.

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#43523 - 03/10/08 01:43 PM Re: Yorkshire Three Peaks [Re: Lounge Lizard]
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Certainly is.
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