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#44860 - 30/01/09 01:30 PM Camping and the Pennine Way
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Hello all,

I will be walking The Pennine Way in the early summer in aid of charity and plan to camp along the way. Can anyone tell me of any campsites (and contact details if possible) where I could stay as I really need to keep costs to an absolute minimum.

Any help would be gratefully appreciated,

kind regards,

RamblinJoe.

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#44864 - 30/01/09 03:28 PM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: Night Owl]
Robbie Offline
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I would suggest getting the official PW Accomodation guide, it lists campsites etc. It can be obtained for free via the National Trails website.
Robbie

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#45113 - 08/02/09 05:47 PM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: Robbie]
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Cheers Robbie, very much appreciated,

Night Owl

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#45189 - 12/02/09 02:00 AM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: Night Owl]
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You could also check out 'The Pennine Way' by Martin Collins, Cicerone Press. At about 8oz and 17.5cm x 12cm x 1cm (with a waterproof cover) I found it very useful. It'll give you maps, accomodation and where to get food etc.
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#45203 - 12/02/09 01:04 PM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: ]
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#45534 - 03/03/09 10:32 PM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: ]
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I was up a bit late that night! I am currently making plans to get underway from around the 25th of May and after some research, my prediction that I could do it in 10 days is looking very ambitious indeed, especially since I've a problem with my balance and I'll be carrying everything with me!

I've received information on accomodation, geology and other features and have also begun to work some other details of the journey out (food/equipment etc). If anyone has any thoughts for "THINGS I MUST TAKE" I would be very pleased to hear from you.

Also if anyone would like to sponsor me, I'll add a link at a later date (if its appropriate to do so). The charity is JTSMA (Jennifer Trust for Spinal Muscular Atrophy).

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#45560 - 05/03/09 01:02 PM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: Night Owl]
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I did it in 10 days overall last year including 9 days actually walking. I carried camping gear, my total pack weight was 30Lbs.
I will post more details later, but for now, i will just add that I took as little as possible and planned to walk an average of 30 miles per day, which I did, and was prepared to walk for 15 hours each day. In the end I averaged about 12.5 hours walking per day, at an average speed of 2.5 mph.
Dave.

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#45564 - 05/03/09 07:44 PM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: Slogger]
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Loc: West Lancs.
What I took:-
Osprey 50+Ltr Rucsac 1.1kg
Mtn Hardware Sleeping bag 400 grammes.
3/4 lengn self inflating sleepmat.
Mtn Hardware Stileto 1 man tent 1.4kg
Small 1st aid kit
small pen knife
Spork (Plastic spoon cum knife & fork)
Single Titanium cooking pot
Micro folding self igniting stove
Small gas canister
2 x Dehydrated meal packs
4 x Deydrated coffee packs
2 x 1/2 litres water bottles(Filled up at clean streams)
3 x breakfast in a bar
cereal bars etc for snacking en route
small tub vaseline
small sun screen
waterproof rucsac cover
Mobile phone
GPS
Guidebook
Maps (Harvey PW route strips)
Compass
Whistle
Myo XP head torch
Atimeter wrist watch
Sun glasses (Didnt need them!)
Trainers
Waterproof jacket & Trousers
Waterproof cap
Waterproof gloves
Gaiters
2 spare pr boxer shorts
2 spare pair socks (for boots)
1 pair socks for trainers
2 lightweight thermal tops
1 heavier weight thermal top
1 pair shorts
1 pair stretch long walking tights
1 pair long johns (Pyjamas)
1 small towel
basic wash shave kit
reading glasses
Thats about it......

Apart that I wore the usual attire including boots.
I would have camped every night but for the lousy weather. I ended up camping 3 nights, 1 camping barn, 2 bunkhouses and 3 B&B.
The dehydrated food was for emergencies when I might not be able to find a pub to have an evening meal (Only happened twice)
I didnt bother with lunch, just relying on snacking during the day, and ate a breakfast bar on the move at 5am each morning.
Where I could and when time allowed I did stop off at Cafes etc for a brew and snack en route. All accomodation other than the 3 nights camping I phoned and booked the night before apart from the bunkhouses and camping barn when I just turned up on speck. I managed to get my small spare wet clothes laundered during my day off in Horton (Lauderette in Settle) and the lovely landlady of the Burness B&B (Burness)
I met others carrying more clothes than me to last their 21 day schedules, but they were all heavily laden, my total was 30lbs almost half of what they were carrying and some were going B&B the whole way.
Dave.

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#45575 - 06/03/09 06:41 PM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: Slogger]
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This is absolutely fantastic! Loads of info and has relieved me of some panic as I was going to take way more than what I probably needed too.

I'll have another read through of your 9 day description as well, to keep the route fresh in my mind,

thanks for the response Slogger,
kind regards,
Joe.

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#45577 - 06/03/09 06:47 PM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: Night Owl]
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P.s. If anyone would like to sponsor me here's my address (all secure)

http://www.justgiving.com/joecolgan

or if you'd like to know more about the charity I'm doing it for then visit

http://www.jtsma.org.uk/

(I hope this isn't breaking any site rules!)

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#45786 - 19/03/09 10:13 PM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: Slogger]
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A 10 day jaunt packing light seems to be the way to do it. I would think a bivvy bag for the odd night on the hill would be fine rather than the weight of a tent.

Did you use water purification tablets? filter? Boil? or pot luck?

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#45792 - 20/03/09 08:29 AM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: Global-Medic]
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we used bivvy bag from Middleton-in-Teesdale
the tent got too heavy
frost on Chew Green in June
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#45839 - 22/03/09 10:02 PM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: tim smith]
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My solo tent weighs 1.4 kg so I would rather carry the extra lttle weight.
I usually get water from streams without any purification or boiling(Never had a problem in over 50 years) however I always managed to get bottled water after the first day.
Dave.

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#45845 - 23/03/09 12:06 AM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: Slogger]
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after getting water from a stream, have you never gone further up strean and seen a dead sheep in the stream, puts plenty of body in the water
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#45854 - 23/03/09 02:02 PM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: tim smith]
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Tim,
If there was a dead sheep in the streams that I have used, it has never had any adverse effects. Actually in all my years of walking, I have come across plenty of dead deers and sheep but only twice have I have seen them in a stream.
Dave.

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#45859 - 23/03/09 05:02 PM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: Slogger]
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Dave,
i have seen sheep in becks and a cow in a river above a water extraction plant.
reported the cow to the environment people and they said they just leave them to let nature take it's course.
would always advise boiling any water or treating with purification tablets, better safe than sorry.
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#45865 - 23/03/09 09:11 PM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: tim smith]
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Loc: Stafford
There always seems to be this fear of a dead sheep just upstream from where you're drinking but I've never heard of the death of any walkers from this. Much more worrying is the prospect of going to your local hospital when it has recently made the national news for 400 patients needlessly dying over a three year period with "appalling standards of care" as budgets were cut in a bid to meet government targets. It's just a case of putting everything in perspective really.

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#45866 - 23/03/09 11:11 PM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: Lounge Lizard]
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>"---where you're drinking---"<

Hello. That's a question I've been meaning to ask. Are the spring waters sweet (unlikely) in the areas along the C2C, or what is the source of fresh drinking water. I tend to consume about 4-5 liters of water a day.
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#45890 - 24/03/09 08:50 PM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: joe yak]
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Drinking that amount during a walk, just be careful where you dispose of it later. A dead sheep upstream of where Im drinking, I dont mind, BUT?!
Dave.

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#45891 - 24/03/09 09:23 PM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: Slogger]
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Originally Posted By: Slogger
Drinking that amount during a walk, just be careful where you dispose of it later. A dead sheep upstream of where Im drinking, I dont mind, BUT?!
Dave.


Perhaps they disposed of it upstream of the sheep and that it why it is dead!
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#45947 - 27/03/09 12:58 AM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: Harland]
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Sheep aside, if I find a sufficienty rotten animal am I allowed to take its horns/antlers/skull as a trophy of my walk? or is there a law which I am not aware of regarding carcasses (skeletons in particular). This seems a flippant question but would like to know anyway.

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#45949 - 27/03/09 05:52 AM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: Night Owl]
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Originally Posted By: Night Owl
Sheep aside, if I find a sufficienty rotten animal am I allowed to take its horns/antlers/skull as a trophy of my walk? or is there a law which I am not aware of regarding carcasses (skeletons in particular). This seems a flippant question but would like to know anyway.


I doubt if the farmer would object, and having a sheeps skull on the coffee table would be a nice alternative to walking round in a tacky Coast To Coast T shirt all the time.

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#46053 - 01/04/09 12:01 AM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: Lounge Lizard]
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Just another thing too. How many calories can I expect to burn if I'm walking an average of say 20 miles a day with a backpack of 30Lbs? I dont want to run myself into the ground if I can help it. Once again thank you for everyone's advice and help!

Night Owl.

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#46063 - 01/04/09 08:01 AM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: Night Owl]
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Originally Posted By: Night Owl
Just another thing too. How many calories can I expect to burn if I'm walking an average of say 20 miles a day with a backpack of 30Lbs? I dont want to run myself into the ground if I can help it. Once again thank you for everyone's advice and help!

Night Owl.


It would depend on how much you weigh as well.
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#47212 - 25/05/09 11:47 PM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: Harland]
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Dear All,

Thanks for your advice so far i'll be starting my journey on the 29th of May and after quite a bit of training feel confident I can do it in 14-16 days. I'll be starting at Kirk Yetholm instead of Edale (as it's closer to my house at the end).

I do have to state that I am absolutely 'having kittens' but looking forward to the challenge, though I'm a bit dissappointed with how much I've raised so far (hoping it'll pick up when I actually doing it) I will write up my journey when I get back.

Once again, Thanks for your help and advice everyone,

kind regards,

Nightowl.

www.justgiving.com/joecolgan
www.jtsma.org.uk

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#47652 - 14/06/09 04:30 PM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: Slogger]
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Registered: 18/11/04
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That sleeping bag sounds very light Dave... was this done last August? It's a good av. pace with 30lb sac.
cheers
lwm
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#47691 - 15/06/09 01:47 PM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: lightweightmick]
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i suppose loads have said/asked this.... but why cant walkers of the Pennine way just Camp on the moors?

i am doing the walk in 6 weeks time, this coincides with the 6 week holidays as my 15 year old son wants to come with me.

we was thinking of setting up camp, where we are...so to speak, pack up and leave early (taking any mess with us btw)

is there a law against this.... obviously cheaper and easier too, as we dont have to look for campsites each day smile

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#47710 - 15/06/09 05:13 PM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: RedDevil]
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Byelaws and regulations by Nat Trust and Nat Parks abound.

I've been told that on Kinder Scout the wardens do evening patrols to send campers back down.

Wild camping is OK if people do as you suggest - pitch late, depart early, leave no mess.

But if you ask, the official answer is "no" in England.
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#47780 - 17/06/09 12:06 AM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: RedDevil]
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Originally Posted By: RedDevil
i suppose loads have said/asked this.... but why cant walkers of the Pennine way just Camp on the moors?

i am doing the walk in 6 weeks time, this coincides with the 6 week holidays as my 15 year old son wants to come with me.

we was thinking of setting up camp, where we are...so to speak, pack up and leave early (taking any mess with us btw)

is there a law against this.... obviously cheaper and easier too, as we dont have to look for campsites each day smile


Hi RedDevil,
I discreetly camped at times, pitched late, left early, no mess, no problems. However, I found that logistically (access to food) it was often more convenient to make for a location that had a campground or YHA facility by the end of day, also some areas of the moors where I would have pitched, I found were too 'boggy' and would have resulted in tent floor seepage.
Good luck with the walk, great that you can do it with your son!
Geo.
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#47789 - 17/06/09 03:52 PM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: Geo]
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Get a dark green tent, put it up at dusk, leave early the next day and leave no mess and you will be fine!

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#47790 - 17/06/09 03:57 PM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: rogere]
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Originally Posted By: rogere
Get a dark green tent, put it up at dusk, leave early the next day and leave no mess and you will be fine!

or fined !

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#47791 - 17/06/09 05:08 PM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: Lounge Lizard]
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welcome back L.L.
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#47793 - 17/06/09 07:52 PM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: joe yak]
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LWM,
Yes I did the route at the end of August/1st week September. The sleeping bag is 2 season down filled. It compresses to around 6" x 5" and warm enough with clothes on. I wouldnt use it in the Autumn or Winter. When is the big day!?
Dave.

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#48105 - 05/07/09 07:02 PM Re: Camping and the Pennine Way [Re: Slogger]
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Hello everyone,

I finally completed my Pennine Way walk after 15 days (though 3 of these were spent trying to recover from tendonitis, doctors orders!) I started at Kirk Yetholm and very glad I did, as this was perhaps the hardest part for me.

With regard to camping on the moors, I didn't find I had any choice on a few occasions so left it as late as I could to pitch up with an hour or so light and simply packed up at sunrise. There is one piece of advice I would give for the Byrness to Kirk Yetholm section take water and LOTS of it!I found I didnt have nearly enough and was incredibly glad to get to the stream near the roman fort the following day. I've never been so thirsty.

Camping on the moors was an incredible sight to wake up to, but never leave any trace of you being there, (it's always disheartening and unsightly to come across litter when surrounded by such beautiful scenery).

I would thouroughly recommend doing it at an easy pace and stopping off in Alston as its a lovely place full of friendly people.

Thanks to all who offered advice and the kind people who gave me water when I really needed it.

Night Owl.
p.s. I've managed to raise 860 so far for JTSMA so very pleased.

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