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#45371 - 22/02/09 02:43 PM Packlist
Bert Offline
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Registered: 10/12/08
Posts: 4
Loc: Holland, Breda
Hello, my name is Bert, I am from Breda in Holland and I start my PW in May this year.
In 1992 I walked with a friend the session from Hebden Bridge to Bowes and in 1996 we walked from Bowes to Haltwistle, each part in a 5 days.
This year I'll do the 15 days walk on my one with full equipment for camping. I have been looking on the forum about PW packlists and reasenable weights for me and my rugsack, but did not find the information I was looking for.
With the list I made I cannot go less than 18 or 19 kilo's, which is i.m.o. quite a lot.
There is for example the rugsack itself (2.8 kg), tent (2.4 kg), sleepingbag (1.5 kg), sleeping mat (0.8 kg) and daily water (3 kg). Only these basic things give a total of more than 10 kg.
Yes, I could buy an expensive very light tent which would spare me one kilo, but that doesn't make the difference, I think.
And then I have another 35 things I want to take with me, like there are 3 maps, compas, passport, gas stove, Ipod, gaiters, rainjacket, camera, cellphone, clothes, binoculars, headlight, trekking poles, batteries and very important, underweare and food, etc.
Does anybody has suggestions to go lighter without making a lot of costs?
No, daily B &B is no option for me, thanks you.

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#45377 - 22/02/09 06:44 PM Re: Packlist [Re: Bert]
Stottie Offline
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Registered: 21/02/07
Posts: 568
Loc: Derbyshire, England
Hello Bert
Your gear seems heavy to me, so there me be no low-cost solution for you.
I use a tent that weighs 1kg, sleeping bag 0.4kg, and my rucsac is less than half the weight of yours. You can get much lighter sleeping mats at low cost.
I never start out with more than 2 litres of water - on most days there are places where you can refill your bottles (add a few drops of iodine if concerned about water quality) and often there are pubs and cafes where you can buy a drink.
One change of clothing is enough - most people take too much.
Eat at pubs and cafes and don't carry stove, fuel and food, except for emergency rations.
The path now has much more paving than on your last visit, and progress is generally easier, though the hard surface may affect your feet and joints - take ibuprofen.
Good luck
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#45378 - 22/02/09 06:59 PM Re: Packlist [Re: Stottie]
Bert Offline
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Registered: 10/12/08
Posts: 4
Loc: Holland, Breda
Thanks for your advice Pete. How many kilograms do you carry on a walk like this, and I mean with camping gear?

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#45379 - 22/02/09 07:01 PM Re: Packlist [Re: Stottie]
Bert Offline
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Registered: 10/12/08
Posts: 4
Loc: Holland, Breda
Thanks for your advice Pete! How many kilo's do you carry on a walk of this lenght, I mean with camping gear?

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#45380 - 22/02/09 08:40 PM Re: Packlist [Re: Bert]
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Registered: 29/04/05
Posts: 1336
Loc: North Yorkshire
I know that I still carry too much but including camping gear (although I don't take cooking stuff) my pack for a 630 mile walk was 14.9 kilos excluding water/food. Nearly half of that weight is the rucksack+liner, tent, sleeping bag/mat = 6.7 kilos.
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#45381 - 22/02/09 08:56 PM Re: Packlist [Re: Bert]
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Registered: 23/03/05
Posts: 206
Loc: England
Bert,
What you can carry depends on you. Your own experience, physique, fitness and strength. Some people could not walk it with nothing to carry. Have you tried walking with 18-19 kgs for a day or 2? I have carried 20 kgs for a 16 day PW, but I will not be doing it again. In May 1.5 litres of water should be ok for starting off with. Without spending on lightweight gear you only have cloths,cooker and food to discard. The poles are your best bit of kit when carrying a backpack. 15 kgs is ok for me,that includes 2 man tent, 2 ltr of ,cooker, gas and 2 days food . Best of luck.

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#45382 - 22/02/09 08:58 PM Re: Packlist [Re: plodder]
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Registered: 23/03/05
Posts: 206
Loc: England
2 ltr of water!

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#45403 - 23/02/09 09:15 PM Re: Packlist [Re: plodder]
Slogger Offline
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Registered: 12/06/05
Posts: 2893
Loc: West Lancs.
Last year in rain sodden Aug/Sept, I carried 14Kg. That included all camping gear, water and food and clothing etc. My Rucsac, tent, sleeping bag, sleep mat and cooking gear totalled around
3.2 Kg. I also only took 2 spare pair boxer shorts and socks, 2 Spare thermal tops, spare shorts, 1 'T' shirt, waterproof jacket and trousers, I pair of trainers.
You can save some wieght by not taking spare batteries and walking poles.
It is a compromise between comfort and carry. The more you carry the more comfort you will have, but the more of a burden the wieght will be, to the point where it compromises your enjoyment. The less you carry the more pleasant the walking, but the less comfort you have. If you can put up with being a bit smelly and dont mind wearing the same underwear for 3 or 4 days, or putting back on an unwashed top that you sweated wet through a couple of days ago, then go lightwieght - theres no better way! Of course you could always allow for a couple of days off at places to go to the lauderette.
Dave.

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#47575 - 09/06/09 04:57 PM Re: Packlist [Re: Slogger]
Bert Offline
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Registered: 10/12/08
Posts: 4
Loc: Holland, Breda
Yes, I finished my Pennine Way on friday the third of June.
I left Edale on the 17th of May, so I walked it in 17 days, with one day of rest at Hawes. It was fantastic!!
Wat a great countrysite you British people have!

I only met very friendly people, who helped me where the could. As there was John, who ,I presume, is still walking from Land’s End to John O’Groats, who gave me ten pounds when I was a bit short of money.
Most of the nights I stayed at campsites on the route. Most facilities were very basic, but adequate.
I had B&B at Byrness (nice cupboard with a great choice of beers and wines, thanks Joice), stayed at Uswayford and, of course the Border Hotel in Kirk Yetholm.
Some people had pity on me, because of my 20 kg rucsack, but really, you get used to it, altough next time I will leave some stuff out.
I found the poles, in my case, very useful.
Many thanks to John, Piet, Michael, Dave, Steve and his wive Beverly, for the very nice company and friendship.

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#47577 - 09/06/09 07:34 PM Re: Packlist [Re: Bert]
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Registered: 29/04/05
Posts: 1336
Loc: North Yorkshire
Well done Bert, I found that I also found great people walking the Pennine Way as well as other long distance paths in the UK.
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