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#48151 - 07/07/09 09:17 AM Re: Politics---B/B [Re: Bliss 60]
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Going back a few years, here's a good one, Arthur Scargill explaining how the miners losing their 1984 strike was everyone's fault but his ;
http://spailpin1903.blogspot.com/2009/03/we-could-surrender-or-stand-and-fight.html

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#48152 - 07/07/09 09:17 AM Re: Politics---B/B [Re: Bliss 60]
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Going back a few years, here's a good one, Arthur Scargill explaining how the miners losing their 1984 strike was everyone's fault but his ;
http://spailpin1903.blogspot.com/2009/03/we-could-surrender-or-stand-and-fight.html

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#48283 - 09/07/09 05:32 PM Re: Politics---B/B [Re: Lounge Lizard]
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I think Bliar and Bush had listened to a line from Crimson Tide :"We hear to preserve democracy,not practice it."
Nimrod

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#48288 - 09/07/09 07:13 PM Re: Politics---B/B [Re: Bliss 60]
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Compared to the USA, the UK has, it seems to me, way too many political parties and members of the House of Commons & House of Lords. You will be way ahead of the USA system if you limit the number of parties to just four: Labour, Co-Operative, Conservative & Liberal Democrats. Slash the 740 members of the House of Lords to just, say, 4 members per Region for a total of 36 members - no more life members, terms limited to six years like the US Senate. The House of Commons could be trimmed a bit from 600+ by redistricting the nine regions and subdivisions and limit to 2-year terms. Lean Mean Political Machine.

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#48295 - 09/07/09 08:08 PM Re: Politics---B/B [Re: landryrk]
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Originally Posted By: landryrk
Compared to the USA, the UK has, it seems to me, way too many political parties and members of the House of Commons & House of Lords. You will be way ahead of the USA system if you limit the number of parties to just four: Labour, Co-Operative, Conservative & Liberal Democrats. Slash the 740 members of the House of Lords to just, say, 4 members per Region for a total of 36 members - no more life members, terms limited to six years like the US Senate. The House of Commons could be trimmed a bit from 600+ by redistricting the nine regions and subdivisions and limit to 2-year terms. Lean Mean Political Machine.

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Well, that's food for thought. Limiting the number of parties might not be a bad idea so long as those four didn't include the Conservatives.

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#48304 - 10/07/09 07:09 AM Re: Politics---B/B [Re: Bliss 60]
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So what have we learned in two millennia?&#8232;&#8232;
"The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.

--- Cicero , 55 BC&#8232;&#8232; &#8232;


Evidently, nothing....

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#48328 - 10/07/09 09:12 PM Re: Politics---B/B [Re: Oldun]
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The one pervading evil of democracy is the tyranny of the majority, or rather of that party, not always the majority, that succeeds, by force or fraud, in carrying elections.

Lord Acton
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#48340 - 11/07/09 11:34 AM Re: Politics---B/B [Re: landryrk]
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Landryrk

Trying to think of something intelligent to say about "politics" but am finding the effort too strenuous.

How is your ancient President doing in retirement?

Your new one seems to be getting about a bit?

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#48343 - 11/07/09 01:48 PM Re: Politics---B/B [Re: Oldun]
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George W. has been very quiet in retirement. His vice President Dick Cheney has been more vocal in criticizing Mr. Obama's policies. Most Republicans are fearing that Obama is pushing the US into socialism.
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#48349 - 11/07/09 02:28 PM Re: Politics---B/B [Re: Oldun]
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Originally Posted By: Oldun
Landryrk

Trying to think of something intelligent to say about "politics" but am finding the effort too strenuous.

How is your ancient President doing in retirement?

Your new one seems to be getting about a bit?


'Getting about a bit' is what that other young president Obama has been compared with was well known for too, but the current incumbant might serve a full term if he doesn't give a speech criticising the influence of freemasonry as JFK unwisely did not long before his assasination. .

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