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#52266 - 18/11/09 11:32 AM Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions...
Lee J Offline
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I have a dilema, do I go from Rosthwaite to Patterdale in one day (18 mile?)or do I split it into 2 days and go Rosthwaite to Grasmere, then, Grasmere to Patterdale?

any opinions?

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#52267 - 18/11/09 11:47 AM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: Lee J]
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It's 18 miles with quite a lot of ascent. If you can spare the time I'd take two days. This leave you with options (e.g. go via Helvellyn and Striding Edge), which you would be hard pressed to do if you were rushing through in one day.

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#52268 - 18/11/09 12:00 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: Black Sailor]
Lee J Offline
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yeah, I got the time. My footprint map has it taking 2 days but someone told me to go straight to patterdale.

Another question I have, Whats everyones opinions on youth hostel accomadation?

and, supposing I want a pint at the end of the day, is there pubs nearby at all these locations? for instance, if I stay at Ennerdale YHA it's about 6 miles to the nearest pub - I take it that'll be a dry night then?

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#52269 - 18/11/09 12:20 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: Lee J]
Lee J Offline
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Im talking shoite, my footprint map says Rosthwaite to Patterdale, 1 day, 17 mile.

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#52271 - 18/11/09 12:59 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: Lee J]
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Rosthwaite to Patterdale is quite do-able if you're reasonably fit. Though it might be better to split into 2 days if you fancied doing Helvellyn or St Sunday Crag.

I think all YHAs are licenced now, we stayed at Ennenrdale and they had a good range of bottled lagers and bitter.

Patterdale has a pub close to the YHA and there's a couple of pubs in walking distance of the YHA in Rosthwaite.

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#52273 - 18/11/09 01:54 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: mickey]
Lee J Offline
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OK, Later on in my route I have another dilema.

recommends Ingleby Cross to Clay bank top (11 mile)but there is no accomm. at clay bank top so should I crack on and get to Blakey Howe (21 miles)

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#52274 - 18/11/09 02:16 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: Lee J]
Lee J Offline
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Here's my plan so far...

1 Sat 12th St.Bees to Ennerdale 14m
2 Sun 13th Ennerdale to Rosthwaite 14m
3 Mon 14th Rosthwaite to Patterdale 17m
4 Tue 15th Patterdale to Shap 16m
5 Wed 16th Shap to Kirkby stephen 21m
6 Thur 17th Kirkby Stephen to Keld 12m
7 Fri 18th Keld to Reeth 11m
8 Sat 19th Reeth to Richmond 11m
9 Sun 20th Richmond to Danby Wiske 13m
10 Mon 21st Danby Wiske to Ingleby Cross 11m
11 Tue 22nd Ingleby Cross to Clay Bank Top 11m
12 Wed 23rd Clay Bank Top to Glaisdale 20m
13 Thur 24th Glaisdale to Robin Hoods Bay 20m

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#52275 - 18/11/09 03:29 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: Lee J]
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Whilst there is no accommodation at Clay Bank itself many guides have the name and address of accommodation who will collect you from there and return you there the next day. This is not an unusual request.

Have a look on the Cleveland Way website, there is accommodation around Clay Bank listed there. You could try calling them and asking if they do a collection service.

Some other posters may have actually used this service.

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#52284 - 18/11/09 07:34 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: slowcoach]
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Patterdale to Shap day is a bit of a slog, so I wouldn't push too hard the day before. Having said that, Rosthwaite to Grasmere would be an easy day, and Grasmere to Patterdale even easier...

If you have the time, split Ros. - Pat. into 2 and take in Striding Edge on the way down to Pat.

Ingleby Cross to Blakey Edge would be a good day if you can get accommodation in the Lion Inn. Its 10 miles from Clay Top Bank but its a easy walk on flat and well made paths, maybe 3 hours

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#52285 - 18/11/09 07:48 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: *tim*]
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If you have time, I suggest allow yourself 2 days so that you can take in the high level alternatives (weather permitting) on both days.

Don't underestimate Rosthwaite to Grasmere in bad conditions; it may not snow in June but it could be rainy and misty.

Looking at your schedule, you could still do it in 13 days if you do Richmond - RHB in 4 days; an extra day in the lakes or an extra day in the Vale of Mowbray - surely it's a no brainer.

Youth Hostels offer good value, are sociable and as most (if not all)are now licensed, if it's still raining you can get a drink without going out and getting wet again.

Have a great walk

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#52297 - 19/11/09 06:01 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: Andy J]
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Lee J,

I have a dilemma. Do i point out your poor spelling or let you continue to screw up the English language?

Ruth

PS I am assuming you are Chinese and are posting between serving 'takeaway' customers

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#52300 - 19/11/09 07:13 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: ruth020989]
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Originally Posted By: ruth020989
Lee J,

I have a dilemma. Do i point out your poor spelling or let you continue to screw up the English language?

Ruth

PS I am assuming you are Chinese and are posting between serving 'takeaway' customers


OOOh that's a bit below the belt Ruth. After all we are walkers on this forum not English teachers!!!

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#52301 - 19/11/09 07:16 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: HB]
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Ruth - Wow, very clever.

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#52309 - 19/11/09 08:50 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: Lee J]
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A few observations on your planned schedule, from our experiences in June 2009.
1. We took 2 days over Rosthwaite to Patterdale, which enabled to do Helvellyn and Striding Edge and enjoy an extra day in the lakes(the best part of the walk)and take in the scenary at a more leisurely pace.
2. Patterdale to Shap is a tough, long day. We stopped at Brampton Grange (Crown and Mitre PH - best B&B on the route). Also stopped at Orton
3. We kept longer days to the second week when were fitter,Brompton on Swale to Osmotherley and Osmotherley to Lion Inn at Blakey were both 20 mile days.

We took 14 days in all and as a result enjoyed the walk more by taking a bit longer over it.

Best of luck next year

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#52403 - 23/11/09 09:18 AM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: ruth020989]
Lee J Offline
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Originally Posted By: ruth020989
Lee J,

I have a dilemma. Do i point out your poor spelling or let you continue to screw up the English language?

Ruth

PS I am assuming you are Chinese and are posting between serving 'takeaway' customers


please explain a bit more what you mean. I'm not good at English, but I dont think I deserved that.

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#52405 - 23/11/09 11:57 AM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: Lee J]
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This is almost the route I did in 2007, except that I stayed with a friend who lives in Rosgill (ie. 4 miles short of Shap) and did another night at Orton. In retrospect, I wouldn't have bothered with that - I'd have done Rosgill to Kirkby Stephen in one day.

In retrospect, I would have also done my Mowbraying in one day. This was my least favourite part of the walk, and it didn't need to be stretched over two days. Richmond is a nice enough place, but the Reeth to Richmond stretch is short and could be extended to Brompton on Swale easily enough - and then heading out to Ingleby Cross on one day would be doable (in fact Richmond to Ingleby Cross is doable in one day).

I would break up Rosthwaite to Patterdale - the climbs are quite arduous and its a beautiful part of the world - not deserving to be rushed. And I wouldn't rush the North York Moors either to get to the Lion Inn in one day - the North York Moors are a beautiful days walk. I met a lot of people who were being picked up at Clay Bank Top - but there is a farmhouse that does B&B at Urra which is not far off the route if you can book in there.

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#52407 - 23/11/09 12:50 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: Bliss 60]
Lee J Offline
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thanks bliss60, thats some valuable information you gave me there - much appreciated

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#52422 - 23/11/09 09:15 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: Lee J]
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Hey Lee, i finished the c2c a couple of weeks ago, here's what we did -

Day 1 - St Bees to Ennerdale bridge
Day 2 - Ennerdale Bridge to Rosthwaite
Day 3 - Rosthwaite to Grasmere
Day 4 - Grasmere to Patterdale
Day 5 - Patterdale to Shap
Day 6 - Shap to Kirkby Stephen
Day 7 - Kirkby Stephen to Keld
Day 8 - Keld to Reeth
Day 9 - Reeth to Richmond
Day 10 - Richmond to Oaktree hill
Day 11 - Oaktree hill to Husthwaite green
Day 12 - Husthwaite green to Lion Inn Blakey
Day 13 - Lion Inn Blakey to Grosmont
Day 14 - Grosmont to Robin Hoods Bay....

Hope this helps a little and good luck! You're gonna love it!!

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#52434 - 24/11/09 09:32 AM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: cmet]
Lee J Offline
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thanks cmet. I'll map that route out later today and study it.

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#52437 - 24/11/09 01:20 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: ruth020989]
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do I point out to Ruth she isnt actually funny ,so stick to being a ticket collector...

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#52440 - 24/11/09 01:48 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: scottie2]
Lee J Offline
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scottie, maybe i'm a bit dim here but I didn't really understand what she was trying to point out. had I spelt something wrong??

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#52442 - 24/11/09 02:22 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: Lee J]
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how do you spell :

dilemma?
accomodation?
dimwit?

lee is the most common chinese family name.

eg

i have a dilemma mr lee do i order extra spring rolls and take them back to my accomodation and read dimwit posts on this thread or do i just not bother.

btw i came out of a chinese takaway the other day and overheard someone use the words dartmoor and cleveland way in the same sentence ; by chance does anybody on this forum know who this person might be?

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#52443 - 24/11/09 02:41 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: ruth020989]
Lee J Offline
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would you please refrain from calling me a dimwit? I'm not the sharpest tool in the box but please don't insult me by calling me 'Dimwit'.

and it's 'takeaway' not 'takaway'

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#52445 - 24/11/09 02:52 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: Lee J]
Lounge Lizard Offline
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The joke about 'Yow Min Lye' is the best one I know of about the mixing of Chinese and Black Country cultures.

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#52446 - 24/11/09 03:31 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: Lounge Lizard]
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Stan Lee isn't Chinese

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#52447 - 24/11/09 03:40 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: scottie2]
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"last time i post on this board .what a set of idiots ..."

Back then I see!!!

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#52451 - 24/11/09 04:22 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: slowcoach]
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who called who a dimwit??

i see you as more of a roy cropper character ; running roys rolls in coronation street.

he's no dimwit ; bit of a hero really.

btw did you know there is going to be a coronation street story line based on the coast to coast walk??

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#52452 - 24/11/09 04:29 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: ruth020989]
Lee J Offline
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Originally Posted By: ruth020989
who called who a dimwit??



you did, twice

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#52453 - 24/11/09 04:37 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: Andy J]
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i'm starting to think that you may well be a d**w** after all.

no offence intended.

we're all different.

some of us are a bunch of idiots.

what time do you close on a saturday evening mr lee? do you do an early bird offer mid week?

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#52454 - 24/11/09 04:51 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: ruth020989]
Lee J Offline
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please stop it

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#52457 - 24/11/09 05:38 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: DodgeyKnee]
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Originally Posted By: DodgeyKnee
Stan Lee isn't Chinese

Maybe, but he's the LEANEST one around here.
- no, you can't beat a good anagram.

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#52460 - 24/11/09 06:24 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: Lounge Lizard]
Slogger Offline
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My surname is Lee, and no I'm not Chinese. The name Lee, (in England anyway) means 'Dweller in the clearing'. Leigh, Lea and Lee all evolved from the original 'Legh'.
Is that 'clear' enough.
Dave.

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#52464 - 24/11/09 08:10 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: Slogger]
slowcoach Offline
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But, don't when you're in Kent, ask for Leigh by pronouncing it Lee. There it is called Lie. But, then that's southerners for you, can't even talk proper.

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#52468 - 25/11/09 09:24 AM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: slowcoach]
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Er, isn't it "who called whom dimwit"?

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#52471 - 25/11/09 02:18 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: RichardJ]
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nope.

to be honest with you kind sir it doth not truely matter ; both could be said to be technically correct in modern usage. something to do with objective and subjective pronouns.

but i don't want to upset anyone ; you do what you like. whom really cares.

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#52472 - 25/11/09 02:48 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: ruth020989]
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Thank you for your kind condescension.

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#52473 - 25/11/09 03:10 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: RichardJ]
ruth020989 Offline
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personality test :

whoman-being or homosapien?
whomus or taramasalata?
dr whom or dr who?
for who the bell tolls or a good whomdunnit by agatha christie?
who's a whomungus dimwit or whom's a very large dimwit?
who's condescending or whom's just wasting time on pointless exchanges?

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#52476 - 25/11/09 04:52 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: ruth020989]
Lee J Offline
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whom has done the C2C that can contribute to my planning?

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#52480 - 25/11/09 05:41 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: Lee J]
slowcoach Offline
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There must be a youtube video about who and whom. Come on LL.

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#52481 - 25/11/09 05:56 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: slowcoach]
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wong mr lee.

who [subjective pronoun ] has done the c2c and is able to contribute to my planning?

or

of those that have completed the c2c whom [ object ] is able to contribute to my planning?

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#52482 - 25/11/09 05:57 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: slowcoach]
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Found something (but not on youtube)
.............................................................

“Who” and “whoever” are subjective pronouns; “whom” and “whomever” are in the objective case.
The two sentences below illustrate the easy usage in which “who” is clearly the subject and “whom” is clearly the object. In such simple cases, virtually everyone can determine the proper choice:

Who is that masked man? (“Who” / subject)
The men, four of whom are ill, were indicted for fraud. (“whom” / object)"
..............................................................

so the correct usage is ....
Who (subject) has called whom (object) a dimwit.

That's two fings that I have lernt this week. (The other is Hitler being an allergy)

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#52484 - 25/11/09 07:05 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: slowcoach]
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Originally Posted By: slowcoach
There must be a youtube video about who and whom. Come on LL.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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#52491 - 26/11/09 09:27 AM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: ruth020989]
Lee J Offline
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Originally Posted By: ruth020989
wong mr lee.

who [subjective pronoun ] has done the c2c and is able to contribute to my planning?

or

of those that have completed the c2c whom [ object ] is able to contribute to my planning?


yeah I know, I was been funny.

laugh

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#52492 - 26/11/09 11:12 AM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: Lee J]
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you vewy funny man mister lee.

my advice to you mister lee......

a journey of won hundred ninety two miles begins with a single step mister lee ( adapted chinese proverb )

you be just like kwai chang caine ; the coast to coast walk hold no fear for you mister lee.

you find many master kan's and master po's on this forum mister lee but you go do your own thing mister lee ; big adventure for you mister lee

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#52493 - 26/11/09 11:35 AM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: ruth020989]
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right-o

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#52506 - 26/11/09 06:46 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: slowcoach]
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Originally Posted By: slowcoach
There must be a youtube video about who and whom. Come on LL.


Who - old and loud
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xZOrWK6d4g
Whom ..... - newer and loud
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX-KjkdDozQ

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#52507 - 26/11/09 08:47 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: Lounge Lizard]
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Yes .... I knew you wouldn't let us down. I suppose there are few diversions in Stafford!

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#52514 - 27/11/09 12:10 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: cmet]
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Originally Posted By: cmet
Hey Lee, i finished the c2c a couple of weeks ago, here's what we did -

Day 1 - St Bees to Ennerdale bridge
Day 2 - Ennerdale Bridge to Rosthwaite
Day 3 - Rosthwaite to Grasmere
Day 4 - Grasmere to Patterdale
Day 5 - Patterdale to Shap
Day 6 - Shap to Kirkby Stephen
Day 7 - Kirkby Stephen to Keld
Day 8 - Keld to Reeth
Day 9 - Reeth to Richmond
Day 10 - Richmond to Oaktree hill
Day 11 - Oaktree hill to Husthwaite green
Day 12 - Husthwaite green to Lion Inn Blakey
Day 13 - Lion Inn Blakey to Grosmont
Day 14 - Grosmont to Robin Hoods Bay....

Hope this helps a little and good luck! You're gonna love it!!


I've just mapped this out and it looks a good route. where did you stop at Oaktree Hill, Husthwaite Green?

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#52516 - 27/11/09 01:10 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: Lounge Lizard]
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Originally Posted By: Lounge Lizard
Originally Posted By: slowcoach
There must be a youtube video about who and whom. Come on LL.


Who - old and loud
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xZOrWK6d4g
Whom ..... - newer and loud
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX-KjkdDozQ


Congatulations LL.
We are not to be dissapointed.
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Next one.
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#52572 - 29/11/09 02:35 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: scottie2]
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Can anyone suggest a wildcamp version of the route.
I still have till June to decide approx where I will be staying,but any suggestions fora 12 day crossing would be great.
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#52591 - 30/11/09 02:58 AM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: Lee J]
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Lee, we did :
Keld to Marske, Marske to Danby Wiske, Danby Wiske to Huthwaite Green,Huthwaite to Lion Inn. etc.We were picked up at Marske, (though I think there was a hostel of some sort close by .in 2000!). Danby had the White Swan,and as far as I remember, Huthwaite had a phone box (we were picked up again) and not much else. Point being, I don't think thre's anything in Huthwaite.

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#52649 - 03/12/09 01:01 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: canmal]
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Hi Lee, we did the C2C in june last year in June. we carried our own gear: tents, stove, and some emergencyy food etc with the plan that if we got somewhere and it was good weather we could camp and if not we would try and blag in somewhere.

These were our stages.

1. st bees to ennerdale yha 19 miles. big first day but quite do-able. my boots split so had to walk with wet feet for next couple of days and my mate twisted his knee coming down nannycatch which slowed us both down. great yha good food and beer

2. ennerdale yah to rosthwaite 8 miles, easy second day. camped but there is a yha there

3. rosthwaite to grasmere yha 8 miles (ended up doing about 15). we went off course in heavy fog on greenup edge, we had planned to go to patterdale but decided to stay in grasmere yha as it was getting on by the time we got down. called in cotswolds and replaced boots and had slapup feed for big day tomorrow.

4. grasmere to shap 25 miles. big 15 hour day setting off at 6am, we got into patterdale about 11:30 and had a cuppa and cake from the shop (there is a good yha in patterdale) and carried on. it is a long pull up to kidsty pike and a very steep descent to haweswater which aggravated knee injury we had already. i recommend from kidsty going down via bigh raise, low raise and measand beck. it is much less steep and misses out a large portion of the path round haweswater which in places is steep, stoney and overgrown. even when you have got round the resevoir there is a deceptivly long distance to go

we eventually got into shap just after 9pm and found accom at the new ings lodge which caters for cyclists and walkers, was too late to get food in town so ate our emergency wetpacks. this had been a v long day in very hot weather, we were both very dehydrated in spite of carrying 3l of water each and were prob suffering from sunstroke/overheating. now we carry rehydration tablets which dissolve in water to keep electrolytes up.

5. shap to kirkby stephen yha 21 miles. another long day but not much climbing, stayed at yha and ate in town.

6. ks to keld 12 miles. had a late start as was gonna be a short day. went to laundrette and had a big breakfast in town and stocked up on compeed and ibuprofen. weather was fog, gales and torrential rain so we went the road way as locals said 9 standards was all but impassable... this was good advice as people who did 9 standards were waiding waist deep across very fast flowing streams and some took 12-15 hours to do the route. stayed in keld bunk house, great place and good food.

7 keld to reeth 12 miles . easy day, stayed at grinton lodge yha.

8. reeth to richmond 11 miles. another easy one, next time might consider doing keld to richmond in 1 day

9. richmond to ingleby cross 23 miles. long boring flat day through farmland mainly. the pub in danby was closed but one of the B&Bs had a seclection of food and drinks with an honesty box. there's a service station just before ingleby where we stocked up on food for the next day. stayed at bluebell in ingleby cross... good food and beer. be aware it's quite a long walk from ingleby to osmotherley if you're planning to say there

10. ingleby to blakey ridge, lion inn 22 miles. this felt like a really long day. stopped off for luch at lord stones. and then stayed at lion inn for much needed food and beers.

11. blakey ridge to littlebeck 19 miles. we fancied a short last day so rang up intake farm at littlebeck and managed to blag a room and pushed on though glaisedale and grosmont. was a long day but we stopped in glaisedale for a few beers and lunch which broke it up.

12. littlebeck to rhb 10 miles. short last day, set off early and were in rhb for 11am, spent rest of day outside wainwright bar getting gently pi55ed and welcomeing the rest of the c2c'ers in when they finished.

all in all i think we did ok and had fun. only things i migh do next time is go lighter without the tents, sleeping bags etc. you can eaily fit all you need in a 35 litre rucksack for the 2 weeks if you don't camp, without the need to get kit shepa'd. also i'd probably split rosthwaite to patterdale in to 2 to allow for helvellyn and striding edge, then make the day back up by doing keld to richmond in one go.

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#52665 - 04/12/09 09:29 AM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: mickey]
Lee J Offline
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Mickey - that info is priceless mate - thanks so much

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#52667 - 04/12/09 07:18 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: Reluctanttrucker]
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Originally Posted By: Reluctanttrucker
Can anyone suggest a wildcamp version of the route.
I still have till June to decide approx where I will be staying,but any suggestions for a 12 day crossing would be great.


Hi RT. We speak again...

Wild camping all the way across would be very difficult, not only from a 'finding suitable locations' point of view, but the days will be long, remember pitch late leave early. Its fine it the weather is good because you can have a long lunch, or stop a few miles short of where you're planning on camping to cook some dinner before finding somewhere to pitch, but if its wet you'll want to get in the tent asap. Most days you'll be finished by 3 / 4pm which is too early to pitch camp.

Have look at the 1:50000 OS maps online and pick out places that you think you'll be able to camp. Lakes are fine, Moors are okay (but wet) the farmland sections will be difficult through.

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#52668 - 04/12/09 07:19 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: *tim*]
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Thanks for your post Mickey, some good info there.

Good to see you stayed at the Lion Inn, good beer, good food and a lovely location albeit next to a road....

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#52675 - 05/12/09 01:59 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: *tim*]
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Thanks Tim.
I can stretch the days out by walking slower.I was going to attempt about 20 miles/day,which I should be able to manage.
It's not a race after all,and I plan on taking plenty of piccies,
which will slow me up a bit too.
I'll wild it where I can,and find a campsite when I can't,or a pub garden,but any tips as to locations would help in the planning.
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#52678 - 05/12/09 06:14 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: Reluctanttrucker]
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Hi RT, I understand what you're saying and see you're also planning on going to some camp sites on route - you'll certainly be needing them for the showers if nothing else, hehe!

I made a few notes as I went along, so will look over the maps and them and see if I can make a few suggestions. The lakes, dales and moors will be okay, its the farmland in between that will be the hardest, but certainly not impossible.

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#52679 - 05/12/09 08:31 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: *tim*]
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Cheers Tim.
I look forward to that.
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#52680 - 05/12/09 10:18 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: Reluctanttrucker]
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Don't forget to pencil in the Lion at Blakey then!!!

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#52682 - 06/12/09 09:25 AM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: slowcoach]
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Originally Posted By: slowcoach
Don't forget to pencil in the Lion at Blakey then!!!

They don't allow me sharp objects. Will have to make do with crayon.
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#53170 - 11/01/10 04:54 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: Reluctanttrucker]
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Is Shap to Kirkby Stephen (21miles) an easy 21mile or a right painful one?

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#53172 - 11/01/10 08:19 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: Lee J]
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It's much flatter than the lakes, mostly meadow walking, but I think it's a bit of a trudge. There's not much to look at compared with the previous few days. Also, depending on where your accommodation is, you might have an extra mile walking through Kirkby Stephen.

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#53177 - 11/01/10 09:05 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: SteveInLeicester]
Lee J Offline
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thanks, how does this look...

St Bees to Ennerdale 19m
Ennerdale to Rosthwaite 9m
Rosthwaite to Grasmere 10m
Grasmere to Patterdale 7m
Patterdale to Shap 16m
Shap to Kirkby Stephen 21m
Kirkby Stephen to Keld 12m
Keld to Reeth 12m
Reeth to Richmond 10m
Richmond to Danby Wiske 13m
Danby Wiske to Osmotherly 12m
Osmotherly to Blakey Ridge 19m
Blakey ridge to Grosmont 15m
Grosmont to Robin Hoods Bay 15m

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#53265 - 15/01/10 06:29 AM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: Lee J]
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I used ******* on the shap -kirkby Stephen leg to save on lugging my gear, I knew it was a boring leg of the trail so I put my head down and yomped it.. If I do the C2C again I will get the bus on this leg haha


Edited by noj (27/01/10 12:00 PM)

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#53272 - 15/01/10 12:01 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: Lee J]
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You shouldn't have any difficulty with that pace, although it is a bit too relaxed for me. I like to walk for more than 6 hours at an average of 2.5mph. However at your projected pace/mileage you will have plenty of time for stop off's etc en route.
Dave.

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#53294 - 16/01/10 07:26 PM Re: Planning for C2C june 2010 - route questions... [Re: Slogger]
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This is my plan for my crossing in May this year. Distances are approx obviously, but total 190 miles. Not bad for less than £50 smile


St Bees to Ennerdale 19m - Wildcamp at Ennerdale Water

Ennerdale to Rosthwaite 9m - Camp at Gillercombe £6

Rosthwaite to Grasmere 10m - Wildcamp on Little Tongue

Grasmere to Patterdale 7m - Wildcamp at Angle Tarn

Patterdale to Shap 16m - Camp at Bulls Head £5

Shap to Kirkby Stephen 21m - Camp at Pennine View £7

Kirkby Stephen to Keld 12m - Camp at park Lodge £5

Keld to Reeth 12m - Camp at Orchard camping park £5

Reeth to Richmond 10m - Camp at Hildyard Arms £0?

Richmond to Danby Wiske 13m - Camp at White Swan?

Danby Wiske to Osmotherly 12m - Camp at Cote Ghyll £7 or Lord Stones £0

Osmotherly to Blakey Ridge 19m Camp at Lion Inn £2:50

Blakey ridge to Littlebeck 19m Camp at Intake Farm £4

Littlebeck to Robin Hoods Bay 11m - DONE laugh

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