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#52638 - 01/12/09 09:55 PM Bridge Closures
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#52639 - 01/12/09 09:58 PM Re: Bridge Closures [Re: lightweightmick]
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That's an awful lot of bridges to put right... must be a nightmare for the local Emergency Services
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#52640 - 01/12/09 10:19 PM Re: Bridge Closures [Re: lightweightmick]
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#52648 - 03/12/09 12:26 PM Re: Bridge Closures [Re: lightweightmick]
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#52658 - 03/12/09 07:35 PM Re: Bridge Closures [Re: lightweightmick]
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Mick,
Thanks for the info.
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#52730 - 08/12/09 10:11 PM Re: Bridge Closures [Re: Slogger]
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Dave, are there any changes on the bridge situation? I just haven't got the time right now to check it out,
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mick
(I only started this thread as the info can't be posted on Noj's thread - so this will give the thread a bump)
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#52744 - 09/12/09 11:44 AM Re: Bridge Closures [Re: lightweightmick]
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#52786 - 11/12/09 08:44 PM Re: Bridge Closures [Re: Lounge Lizard]
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LWM,
The RE's had built a double single Bailey Foot Bridge to link (by Foot) the two halves of Workington. Looking at the span of some that that have gone especially that one in which the PC lost his life, they are going to require at least one central pillar. It will take time to build even a temporary one for a temporary bridge.
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#52788 - 11/12/09 10:09 PM Re: Bridge Closures [Re: Slogger]
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Even though the main roads are clear thoughts go out to the locals who depended on these more minor road bridges, though I'm sure they have literally found a way round their current situation by pulling together Dave. When you stop to think, we do, by and large, take bridges for granted...
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#52793 - 12/12/09 05:50 AM Re: Bridge Closures [Re: Slogger]
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Originally Posted By: Slogger
LWM,
The RE's had built a double single Bailey Foot Bridge to link (by Foot) the two halves of Workington. Looking at the span of some that that have gone especially that one in which the PC lost his life, they are going to require at least one central pillar. It will take time to build even a temporary one for a temporary bridge.
Dave.

Given the tens of billions of pounds we give the Ministry of Defence each year I would have thought they could have provided a vehicular bridge by now.

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#52797 - 12/12/09 02:05 PM Re: Bridge Closures [Re: Lounge Lizard]
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Originally Posted By: Lounge Lizard
Given the tens of billions of pounds we give the Ministry of Defence each year I would have thought they could have provided a vehicular bridge by now.


But remember the money we give them is so they can go off to far flung parts of the world and do the bidding of our masters and get targeted in the process, not stay home and look after us.

But praise where praise is due...ours are the best at whatever it is they are tasked to do,and do it without question.
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#52828 - 13/12/09 02:17 PM Re: Bridge Closures [Re: Lounge Lizard]
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Originally Posted By: Lounge Lizard

Given the tens of billions of pounds we give the Ministry of Defence each year I would have thought they could have provided a vehicular bridge by now.


The R.E's have the means to provide vehicular bridges very quickly. They are like giant mecano sets and can be built on one bank and cantilevered across the gap, the Sappers then balance across the structure carrying the 'bank set' for the other side. When this is quickly built the bridge is pushed further across to land and rest upon it. Ramps and decking is added and is then ready for use. These bridges can carry tanks etc so road vehicles are no problem.
The only problem as I see it are the lengh of spans. For long spans across rivers, pontoon bridges can be assembled. These are literally a series of floats linked together and decking added. The army have some very technical amphibious bridging units too, but these are only for short term crossings. The problem with some of the bridges that are affected is that the rivers they span are tidal, rising and falling, narrowing and widening a couple of times daily, this makes pontoons difficult to manage.
No doubt they are going to take some months to replace.
Dave.

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#52836 - 13/12/09 07:18 PM Re: Bridge Closures [Re: Lounge Lizard]
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The ginger beers build bridges for tracked and all terrain vehicles, not family cars and milk floats. Both ends of this bridge are in fields, with no roadway approach, so itís a footbridge.

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#52838 - 13/12/09 10:05 PM Re: Bridge Closures [Re: plodder]
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queer phrase that......'ginger beers'

thought the origin was either aussie - diggers - or london east end ; many common connections of course.

however...thanks to the ginger beers i can now drive my vauxhall cavalier across the river to pick up my chandelier....more tea vicar!!

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#52849 - 14/12/09 04:50 PM Re: Bridge Closures [Re: ruth020989]
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#52850 - 14/12/09 05:48 PM Re: Bridge Closures [Re: plodder]
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many thanks. so difficult to work out rhyming slang isn't it.

i think i'll refer to them as the Corp of Royal Engineers ; i for one will not be addressing them as ginger beers ; so disappointing to hear of people running down the army ; rather sad to see people on this forum doing just that. they do a great job and the use of perjorative language can only harm morale.

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#52851 - 14/12/09 06:50 PM Re: Bridge Closures [Re: ruth020989]
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Ruth,
I think you should get off your high horse. I served for many years with the paras and special forces. As did my grandfather and now my son. Your post is way over the top. You must have had a sense of humour by-pass. As for morale, if the lads read your post they would laugh their caps off.

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#52853 - 14/12/09 07:20 PM Re: Bridge Closures [Re: plodder]
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Some more for you.

Marines = bootnecks. Sailors = rum bum and backy brigade. Cavalry = donkey wallopers. Logistic Corps = blanket stackers. Catering Corps = slop jockeys.
Guards = wooden tops. I could go on. No offence intended.

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#52855 - 14/12/09 07:44 PM Re: Bridge Closures [Re: plodder]
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Originally Posted By: plodder
The ginger beers build bridges for tracked and all terrain vehicles, not family cars and milk floats. Both ends of this bridge are in fields, with no roadway approach, so itís a footbridge.


There are many RE built Bailley bridges up and down the country especially Scotland that have been in place for many years, as permanent strutures for domestic road traffic in country areas.
Dave.

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#52856 - 14/12/09 07:46 PM Re: Bridge Closures [Re: plodder]
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Ruth,
Only the Ruperts ( officers) will know what "perjorative language" means. Lighten up lass.

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#52857 - 14/12/09 09:01 PM Re: Bridge Closures [Re: plodder]
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eye eye captain plodder sir.

what's militia slang for i was just pulling your plonker plodder lad?

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#52860 - 15/12/09 04:26 PM Re: Bridge Closures [Re: ruth020989]
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"so disappointing to hear of people running down the army ; rather sad to see people on this forum doing just that. they do a great job and the use of perjorative language can only harm morale."
Ruth, You did a good job.

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#52865 - 16/12/09 05:10 PM Re: Bridge Closures [Re: plodder]
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Plodder,
You are being too nice. As you will know members of the Cherry Berries call the rest of us that wear that wear navy - Crap hats.
A question for you - what would you call members of 9 Para - possibly - Cherry Berrie Ginger Beers, or members of 59 Commando - Boot Neck Ginger Beers?
Thats one of the main things I recall about about army life, a name and abreviation for everything. Its almost like a seperate language
Dave.

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#52867 - 16/12/09 05:39 PM Re: Bridge Closures [Re: plodder]
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Originally Posted By: plodder
"so disappointing to hear of people running down the army ; rather sad to see people on this forum doing just that. they do a great job and the use of perjorative language can only harm morale."

Advertising themselves as 'The Professionals' the Army would have us believe that no task is beyond their capability hence my comment that "I would have thought they could have provided a vehicular bridge by now".
I fail to see how such a comment, a challenging rather than a perjorative one, can be interpreted as "running down the army" and would never have thought them sensative enough to let such a suggestion "harm morale".

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#52868 - 16/12/09 07:15 PM Re: Bridge Closures [Re: Lounge Lizard]
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LL .The comments in " " are not mine.
Slogger, The non Cherry Berries say only 2 things fall from the sky, Paras and bird shit.

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