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#52951 - 27/12/09 08:38 PM 6 mo. on
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16 June 2009 -- a few hundred yards away from the Falling Foss Tea Garden, while stepping down a muddy slope, I heard a triple rip, like the tear of linen, and looked down to find my foot hanging like a flipper from my leg -- a triple ankle break, better known as a trimalleolar ankle fracture. From a soft cast to a hard cast to another hard cast and a Frankenboot, from crutches to a walker to a cane, I have spent the last 6 months in recovery from a stupid mis-step.

Physical Therapy has me on a reclining bike, not hiking the hills, but am looking for tips from someone who has been there and back, the recovery trail.

I am staying home this summer and have planned with a friend to walk the C2C again in 2014. Between now and then I am looking for a few shorter LDW's I can walk alone. The Cleveland Way appeals as folks have told me I need to visit Filey. Any suggestions?

With best wishes for a fabulous 2010.
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#52953 - 27/12/09 09:22 PM Re: 6 mo. on [Re: Arial]
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so sorry to hear of your accident
but glad to see you are going to meet it head on and get on with your walking
I cannot offer you advice as i have never been there.
all I can say when you do start a LDW take time and patience
do not be too ambitious,
allow for a short walk each day
all the Best for 2010
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#52958 - 28/12/09 07:02 AM Re: 6 mo. on [Re: Arial]
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Ouch! Sounds painful! Like Tim, haven't been there so unfortunately can't offer any first hand advice, but good luck with the recovery. I would suspect that once an ankle has been badly damaged like that it will remain more prone to injury for a long period so I'd think some sort of ankle 'support' bandage may me needed for a while once you recommence hiking. No doubt your GP/physio can offer some good advice there.
Just curious to know what sort of footwear you were wearing at the time of the triple break.
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#52959 - 28/12/09 08:07 AM Re: 6 mo. on [Re: Geo]
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Have you considered the Wolds Way? 80 miles approx. Starts at the end of Filey Brigg and Finishes at Hessle, outside of Hull. Not too demanding hill wise, very short climbs and easily possible to escape back by bus at several points if your ankle causes concerns.
Alternatively, how about the Tabular Hills walk (used to be called "The Link"?). This links the Cleveland Way, just north of Scarborough to Helmsley and completes the circle of the Cleveland Way. Again, not too demanding, pleasurably remote without going into the real wildernesses. Easy access to public transport at its terminal points with some access in summer during the Moorsbus timetable.


You could, of course, do the complete circuit (CW and THW) knowing that if the demands are too great it is easy to stop and leave the rest for another time.

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#52964 - 28/12/09 04:30 PM Re: 6 mo. on [Re: slowcoach]
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Originally Posted By: slowcoach
Have you considered the Wolds Way? 80 miles approx. Starts at the end of Filey Brigg and Finishes at Hessle, outside of Hull. Not too demanding hill wise, very short climbs and easily possible to escape back by bus at several points if your ankle causes concerns.
Alternatively, how about the Tabular Hills walk (used to be called "The Link"?). This links the Cleveland Way, just north of Scarborough to Helmsley and completes the circle of the Cleveland Way. Again, not too demanding, pleasurably remote without going into the real wildernesses. Easy access to public transport at its terminal points with some access in summer during the Moorsbus timetable.


You could, of course, do the complete circuit (CW and THW) knowing that if the demands are too great it is easy to stop and leave the rest for another time.


If you do decide on the Missing Link, do take care on the stepping stones over the streams,I think North Yorkshire County Council should do a survey on them, as nearly every crossing, the stones nearest the bank are under water.
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#52965 - 28/12/09 05:30 PM Re: 6 mo. on [Re: Geo]
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Geo,

I cannot put my fall down to my footwear. Always cautious of my ankles, I was wearing full coverage Zamberlain boots.

I blame the mud. As I found myself going too far away from the water through the wood, I decided to stick to water, apparently to my peril. As the mud was well trampled and 4 - 5 inches deep - each step found us sinking into the heavy mud, We decided to ascend a little above the path. Attempting to descend to the path, I had my left foot lower than my right and as I turned, I twisted as I stood in the mud, and "crh, crh, crh": fin foot.

Lessons: 1)The full ankle coverage won't always protect you from ankle twists and breaks. 2) Beware of mud.

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#52967 - 28/12/09 08:33 PM Re: 6 mo. on [Re: Arial]
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Tim

Within each National Park every crossing which carries a public right of way, be it a ford, bridge or stones (other than on a county road) is subjected to an annual safety survey. They are the responsibility of the particular park itself rather than the council.


If you would you indicate which you mean I'll pass them on to be rechecked.

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#52969 - 28/12/09 09:12 PM Re: 6 mo. on [Re: slowcoach]
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HI slowcoach
will check grid references and post later
thanks
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#52970 - 28/12/09 10:31 PM Re: 6 mo. on [Re: slowcoach]
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Originally Posted By: slowcoach
Tim

Within each National Park every crossing which carries a public right of way, be it a ford, bridge or stones (other than on a county road) is subjected to an annual safety survey. They are the responsibility of the particular park itself rather than the council.


If you would you indicate which you mean I'll pass them on to be rechecked.


This is what I like about this forum.
There are so many people to offer advice,and some more in positions to do something when it is required.

SC.If I was wearing it,I would take my hat off to you.
In fact hang on a tick...................There you go.
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#52971 - 28/12/09 10:46 PM Re: 6 mo. on [Re: tim smith]
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Originally Posted By: tim smith
HI slowcoach
will check grid references and post later
thanks


the grid references for the stepping stones that were a danger last time i used them are as follows
SE 748 925 on river seven
and SE 812 983 on wheeldale beck
maybe they have been seen too by now
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#52972 - 29/12/09 01:27 AM Re: 6 mo. on [Re: tim smith]
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Ariel, sorry you had to go through that experience. I know its traumatic, I went through a similar slip on the mud and also broke my ankle bone (south of Whitby). Only one bone broken, not three. I hobbled five miles to RHB, then bussed to Scarborough Hospital. That was in Oct 2006. In April 2007, I was fully recovered enough to walk Glyndwr's Way.

The shim they put on the break did its job but I understand any bone growth at the break will be stronger than the original bone. I started out with an orthopedic boot for my flight home, then a hard cast after the operation, crutches to get around. After three months I was walking fine. Yours is obviously a very severe break which takes longer to heal, but as you persevere it will eventually be as good as new, certainly by spring.

When you are up to it, I would suggest a riverside walk with some gentle climbs, perhaps the Dales Way from Ilkley to Buckden (which has bus service).
Good luck to you as you finish rehab.

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#52975 - 29/12/09 08:03 AM Re: 6 mo. on [Re: Reluctanttrucker]
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Next time you are out walking keep an eye out for a bearded bespectacled bloke with a name badge on (not Slowcoach though) carrying a litter picker. You can then drop a tenner into his undoubtedly grubby hand.

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#52976 - 29/12/09 08:36 AM Re: 6 mo. on [Re: slowcoach]
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Why is it that people who enjoy walking in the countryside enjoying the views drop litter? If it was a short distance from a village then I could understand that the litter louts may not be "walkers" but when you find litter miles from anywhere on a footpath then it really does amaze me. I have now taken the "hint" from an Australian girl I met who took a plastic bag with her and picked up the litter (even cigarette ends - not to smoke later!) on the way which I understand is "what they do down there".
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#52978 - 29/12/09 11:48 AM Re: 6 mo. on [Re: tim smith]
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Originally Posted By: tim smith
Originally Posted By: tim smith
HI slowcoach
will check grid references and post later
thanks


the grid references for the stepping stones that were a danger last time i used them are as follows
SE 748 925 on river seven
and SE 812 983 on wheeldale beck
maybe they have been seen too by now



Hi Tim
Most of the National Parks have what are called "promoted routes". These are self created routes which, although not having National trail status are maintained to a high level as regards signposts, stiles, gates, bridges etc. The Tabular Hill Walk (Formerly "The Link") is one of these and, as such, should provide no insurmountable obstacles. That is why I was a bit worried about these stepping stones as I couldn't for the life of me think of any on the walk!

In fact the two that you mentioned are quite a distance off the THW and should not affect anyone undertaking it. So the original poster can rest assured that the walk should be accessible to him/her.

Both of the stones that you mentioned generally give no problems but can be underwater during flood conditions. Both however, suffer from the problem that they are actually on the spring line and a permanent solution would be difficult to achieve. As there is no evidence of a bridge ever being at eithe of the two locations the park cannot install one without the landowners permission .... and that is a whole new ball-game. Boggy ground at the eastern side to the ones at Wheeldale was drained earlier this year in order to make reaching them easier. The Seven ones are so little used that no problems have been raised to date. However,I will ask for both sets to be rechecked.

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#52979 - 29/12/09 11:53 AM Re: 6 mo. on [Re: Harland]
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Originally Posted By: Harland
Why is it that people who enjoy walking in the countryside enjoying the views drop litter? If it was a short distance from a village then I could understand that the litter louts may not be "walkers" but when you find litter miles from anywhere on a footpath then it really does amaze me. I have now taken the "hint" from an Australian girl I met who took a plastic bag with her and picked up the litter (even cigarette ends - not to smoke later!) on the way which I understand is "what they do down there".



It is often what you find that is quite unbelievable! Many times I collect something and ponder how on earth someone parted company with that. Example .... a full size cut out of a policeman on top of Lovely Seat .... a bikini bottom in the snow on Whernside

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#52980 - 29/12/09 01:17 PM Re: 6 mo. on [Re: slowcoach]
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Originally Posted By: slowcoach
Next time you are out walking keep an eye out for a bearded bespectacled bloke with a name badge on (not Slowcoach though) carrying a litter picker. You can then drop a tenner into his undoubtedly grubby hand.


I don't think Pavaroti will fit in your bag.
I shall endevour to have him made smaller and placed in an envelope in the same place as I found yourpayment for the tent.
Happy New Year to you and yours.
Paul
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#52982 - 29/12/09 03:19 PM Re: 6 mo. on [Re: Reluctanttrucker]
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Hi Slowcoach,
yes i was just going by my memory,
was it originally, Malcom Boyes Missing Link for the Cleveland Way.
a few years ago I did a recky round the area and was thinking those stepping stones were on the route.
I had parked at pub walked northeast as far as Muffles bridge at se 760 944 then into the forest and back down by Spiers Bank House to the road ,walked north to the public footpath and the stepping stones then joined the link going north and then back down to the pub.
sorry if I have mislead you
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#52983 - 29/12/09 03:20 PM Re: 6 mo. on [Re: Reluctanttrucker]
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Hi Slowcoach,
yes i was just going by my memory,
was it originally, Malcom Boyes Missing Link for the Cleveland Way.
a few years ago I did a recky round the area and was thinking those stepping stones were on the route.
I had parked at pub walked northeast as far as Muffles bridge at se 760 944 then into the forest and back down by Spiers Bank House to the road ,walked north to the public footpath and the stepping stones then joined the link going north and then back down to the pub.
sorry if I have mislead you
THANKS A LOT
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#52984 - 29/12/09 07:19 PM Re: 6 mo. on [Re: Arial]
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Hi Arial,
I have not been there, not as bad as that anyway, however I have witnessed the recovery from bad injuries of several Fell runners. All I can offer is to say "Little by Little" and you will get there. As you probably realise you are likely to have some permanent weakness in the ankle, so carefull choice of footwear will be even more important. Strong full hide thickness leather supportive boots will give you the extra confidence you will require to get going again, properly.
All the best.
Dave.

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#52989 - 29/12/09 09:02 PM Re: 6 mo. on [Re: tim smith]
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Originally Posted By: tim smith

Hi Slowcoach,
yes i was just going by my memory,
was it originally, Malcom Boyes Missing Link for the Cleveland Way.
a few years ago I did a recky round the area and was thinking those stepping stones were on the route.
I had parked at pub walked northeast as far as Muffles bridge at se 760 944 then into the forest and back down by Spiers Bank House to the road ,walked north to the public footpath and the stepping stones then joined the link going north and then back down to the pub.
sorry if I have mislead you



If the pub was the "Blacksmiths Arms" that has now closed!!!

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#52991 - 29/12/09 09:13 PM Re: 6 mo. on [Re: slowcoach]
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we have lost a pub in our village, another one about 3 miles away has shut.
The locals are not using them like their grandparents did,
then again the village pub was only a sideline in those days.
the landlord had other irons in the fire.
there was always some thing going on, darts ,dominoes and barbilliards.
most village pubs to-day are licenced restaurants.
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#52995 - 30/12/09 08:03 AM Re: 6 mo. on [Re: tim smith]
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Some actually drive themselves out business. Country pubs that still say "no walkers, cyclists, horse riders, bikers, anglers, people with an "e" in their name etc etc now tend to have a short shelf life! There is one famous case of a remote village pub which acquired its own forum because of the attitude of its previous hosts. Wanted to become a country retreat and so made locals and walkers unwelcome. Went belly-up and now, under a new owner who welcomes everyone and is thriving.

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