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#56083 - 16/06/10 09:29 PM Re: Wolds Way [Re: Oldun]
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Registered: 30/07/09
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I am in the David Rubenstein book. Is this the one that you bought? (DR was the originator of the walk).

The proposed route was subdivided into sections. Each section was given to a small group (of 2 in my case) who had to walk the different paths between the terminal points of it, talk to the landowners and suggest a final route.

My section was between Thixendale and Settrington. We suggested the route through the deserted mediaeval village of Wharram Percy (which was accepted after a long fight) and through Burdale, which wasn't, after a long fight with a powerful landowner.

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#56097 - 16/06/10 11:29 PM Re: Wolds Way [Re: slowcoach]
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Originally Posted By: slowcoach
I am in the David Rubenstein book. Is this the one that you bought? (DR was the originator of the walk).

The proposed route was subdivided into sections. Each section was given to a small group (of 2 in my case) who had to walk the different paths between the terminal points of it, talk to the landowners and suggest a final route.

My section was between Thixendale and Settrington. We suggested the route through the deserted mediaeval village of Wharram Percy (which was accepted after a long fight) and through Burdale, which wasn't, after a long fight with a powerful landowner.



I think these powerfull land owners have a lot of pull with some Parish Councillors.
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#56108 - 17/06/10 01:14 PM Re: Wolds Way [Re: tim smith]
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Hi slowcoach. The book I've been sent is by Roger Ratcliffe and looks fairly complete, i.e., no need for OS maps, although the appropriate map numbers are given.

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#56122 - 17/06/10 06:52 PM Re: Wolds Way [Re: slowcoach]
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Originally Posted By: slowcoach
I am in the David Rubenstein book. Is this the one that you bought? (DR was the originator of the walk).

The proposed route was subdivided into sections. Each section was given to a small group (of 2 in my case) who had to walk the different paths between the terminal points of it, talk to the landowners and suggest a final route.

My section was between Thixendale and Settrington. We suggested the route through the deserted mediaeval village of Wharram Percy (which was accepted after a long fight) and through Burdale, which wasn't, after a long fight with a powerful landowner.



Hi Slowcoach
I have David Rubensteins Wolds way book some where.
A walking companion and I walked it before it was opened.
the book came out before all the route was offical.
I know at the time we had a problem or two, but still enjoyed it even with all the rain. could tell you a few tales about that walk that stays in the memory.
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#56145 - 18/06/10 09:36 AM Re: Wolds Way [Re: tim smith]
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Where you part of the group filmed by Yorkshire Televisual trying to gain access up Welton Dale? I remember along with me, there was Geof Mell, Frank Nunnez? and several others. Faced by the gamekeeper with a couple of Alsations baring their teeth at us we were very careful in what we did!

No chance of the path being opened easily until the landowner was succeeded by his son who, having been to agricultural college, was far more inclined to allow public access.

Were you on the official opening? There is a picture in his book showing his speech.

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#56158 - 18/06/10 02:46 PM Re: Wolds Way [Re: slowcoach]
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Originally Posted By: slowcoach
Where you part of the group filmed by Yorkshire Televisual trying to gain access up Welton Dale? I remember along with me, there was Geof Mell, Frank Nunnez? and several others. Faced by the gamekeeper with a couple of Alsations baring their teeth at us we were very careful in what we did!

No chance of the path being opened easily until the landowner was succeeded by his son who, having been to agricultural college, was far more inclined to allow public access.

Were you on the official opening? There is a picture in his book showing his speech.




Hi Slowcoach ,
no we were not at the offical Opening, it is long time ago when we walked it, and as far as I can remember there were sections that were still being negotiated, at least we found places that
the landowners would not allow access, so we walked a bit on the roads.
I walked it with John Snodgrass, a walking companion on many a long distance walk.
John was the head cook and keen photographer. have looked in my scrap book, but seem to have not written any thing up about, have some good photo's taken by John.
seem to have lost the book as well.
have walked many sections since,
Happy Memories.
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#56159 - 18/06/10 03:04 PM Re: Wolds Way [Re: tim smith]
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Slowcoach,
looking through the post's again, I see you mention going on to Scarborough at the finish, when we walked it, it started at Filey and finished at the Humber.
Does the new book advocate starting at the Humber.
Oldun,
do you intend walking it this year , if so which way will you walk it,
might like to join you for a section if that is O.K., say around Millington.
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#56160 - 18/06/10 04:05 PM Re: Wolds Way [Re: tim smith]
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Both of my books, Ratcliffe and Rubenstein, show the route from Ferriby to Filey. Although, to be strictly accurate to the East Riding/North Riding county boundary 2 km along the coast north west from Filey. When the Cleveland Way was extended to Filey it was decided to make them both finish at the Brigg, marking the spot with a commemorative stone.

I suggested to Oldun that, being nobbut a spring chicken, if he fancied making it longer he could continue on the first part of the CW as far as he wanted.

Was the Ian Carstairs who spoke against your footpath the very same IC who worked for the national park promoting outdoor activities. If so its a definite case of NIMBYism. Makes a good living out of outdoor photography now I hear. "Come and explore the oudoors, but not near me"

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#56173 - 18/06/10 10:55 PM Re: Wolds Way [Re: slowcoach]
tim smith Offline
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Registered: 28/10/06
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Originally Posted By: slowcoach
Both of my books, Ratcliffe and Rubenstein, show the route from Ferriby to Filey. Although, to be strictly accurate to the East Riding/North Riding county boundary 2 km along the coast north west from Filey. When the Cleveland Way was extended to Filey it was decided to make them both finish at the Brigg, marking the spot with a commemorative stone.

I suggested to Oldun that, being nobbut a spring chicken, if he fancied making it longer he could continue on the first part of the CW as far as he wanted.

Was the Ian Carstairs who spoke against your footpath the very same IC who worked for the national park promoting outdoor activities. If so its a definite case of NIMBYism. Makes a good living out of outdoor photography now I hear. "Come and explore the oudoors, but not near me"




Yes it could be the same, he successfully organised a group of people to stop navigation on the river Derwent above Stamford Bridge.
he is building a centre at Wheldrake to introduce young people to bird watching.
they can only use the RSPB paths and hides on this site that the RSPB own. They can use the PROW
there is trust named after him.also he was Honoured for some preservation work maybe to do with Wheldrke Ings
the things he has got people to do to try and stop locals walking! I do not know if I have mentioned on this site, but since he has come on the scene, 3 haughling bridges have been destroyed plus 2 over the River Derwent,
one has been replaced lower down stream so that it is not on the line of a claimed PROW.
things get quite frustrating for ann old codger like me.
he can put what objects he likes he won't stop me walking!
the Old Darren at SE 6945 445 has been dredged out to allow water to back up to try and stop people walking.
when I got onto English Nature, they said it has been dredged out regulary to drain the low grounds but when you look on google they have never dredged it as far as they have this year.
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#56179 - 19/06/10 07:39 AM Re: Wolds Way [Re: tim smith]
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Registered: 01/12/04
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Loc: Renens, Vaud, Switzerland
Hi ern. Looking at the calendar, walking it this year will not be possible. We schedule one UK walk per year around the May/June time. As we will all be a bit fitter by then, it would be great to meet up with you and maybe slowcoach. It would be nice to put a face to the forum chat. I think that we will either start or finish in Scarborough owing to train connections to York.

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