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#56086 - 16/06/10 10:15 PM Ultralight advice?
Dargie25 Offline
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Registered: 16/06/10
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Hi everyone, Iím hoping to do the coast to coast (probably alone) sometime in July or August camping all the way and Iím trying to really go as light weight as possible with my kit. Iv never tried to go ultra light before and this will be the longest walk iv ever done so I was wondering if any of you more experienced hiking might be able to give me a few tips?

Iv put together a possible kit list taking the weights from things I either already have, and have weighed or from the claimed weights on manufacturers websites. Anything in red is something I havenít yet bought but have done my best to find out the weight of and I intend to purchase.

This should be everything inside the rucksack, not counting what Iím already wearing.

*Rucksack golite pinnicle 935 the jam2 a possible alternative at 750 g but much smaller capacity
*golite shangrila 1 person tent 435 Ė flysheet only
*tent floor 198
*keyring torch 30
*gelert rainpod waterproof coat 223
*1x synthetic tshirt 179 (wearing one again)
* Socks including pair of seal skinz 262
*thermal top 250

*Compass 35
*Multi tool 85 ???( have found useful in past)
2* bamboo canes 98(as tent poles for the fly sheet instead of using heavy walking poles)
*Mobile 92 ???
*Gaffa tape 32 ??? ( have used this on hotspots before to great effect)
*3m of para cord 15 ???
*Maps 98 (already cut down as much as humanly possible without them falling apart)
*First aid kit 18
*Cut down sleeping mat 97
*Sleeping bag 807
Waterproof overpants 362
1x tracksuit bottoms 350 (i will also be wearing a pair)

One thing im finding it hard to store is sunscreen I donít really want to take a whole 230g bottle but I cant really think of any smaller suitable containers for it.

Total baseweight of rucksack is 4627, with 2000 of water and about 600 of food that goes to about 7227.

Well thats it, Do you think too little, too much, anything else I might be able to shave off?

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#56088 - 16/06/10 10:22 PM Re: Ultralight advice? [Re: Dargie25]
miss brahms Offline
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Registered: 16/06/10
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when are you starting?

i've agreed to meet slowcoach at the lion inn blakey on the 11th july.

does that fit your schedule?

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#56089 - 16/06/10 10:25 PM Re: Ultralight advice? [Re: Dargie25]
Slogger Offline
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Registered: 12/06/05
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Loc: West Lancs.
Interesting about the Gaffa Tape, do you find this better than say Climbers finger tape.
No Underwear at all?
That Gellert rainpod top is it completely waterproof and breathable, i.e. taped inner seams?
Apart from that very lightweight, you will become somewhat smelly, but so what. Like me you are not taking cooking gear.
What footwear are you wearing and how many days are you planning on?
Dave.

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#56093 - 16/06/10 10:38 PM Re: Ultralight advice? [Re: Slogger]
Dargie25 Offline
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Registered: 16/06/10
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Id love to meet up with miss brahms, it just depends upon if I can get my old motorbike sold before then to pay for the trip and the new gear smile

I find that when im hiking in hot weather it can get somwhat toasty down there, I prefer to erm..... let it get breezy, ahem moving on...

Aye the gaffa tape clings on like hell as long as your feet don't get completely drenched but iv never used climbers finger tape so I can't compare (Tho I suspect the gaffa tape may be cheaper?)

The gelert coat doesn't appear to have tapered seams but it is vented under arms ect. Might be worth spending a bit more for a better rain coat?

Ah what does smelly matter when you can wash stuff using soap in the shower at youth hostels laugh I'll mostly be eating big meals from pubs, but ill carry enough to keep me going for a day if need be.

Planning on 10-12 days perhaps weather dependent and ill just be using run of the mill walking boots, they weigh about 1.4 kg I think.

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#56100 - 17/06/10 01:24 AM Re: Ultralight advice? [Re: Dargie25]
flatlands Offline
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Registered: 04/06/07
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I've both the Go-lite Pinnacle and Jam rucksacks, very lightweight and recommended.

However,I prefer the Pinnacle, mainly because of the space it allow for spare water and food. It's not 100% waterproof. What I do nowadays is use 2 binliners inside one of each other, rucksack cover and on top of that, a Snugpak Poncho.

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#56101 - 17/06/10 11:34 AM Re: Ultralight advice? [Re: Dargie25]
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Registered: 18/11/04
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Loc: North Derbyshire UK
Hi D25,
...your ground insulation and map weights are impressive!
though the multi tool tips you over the ultralight - you won't need it - and without it you're under 10lbs (9.96) though this don't include all that sun cream... how about a film cannister? or scour your local 'bucket shops' for small cosmetic tubes - or kid's toothpaste tube?
As you've gone to such trouble with the above mentioned you would be as well carefully checking out the sac capacities as they are both very heavy for ultralight, though I appreciate it's tricky when on a tight budget.
for a few quid though that 'tent floor' could be less: ie. 50gm space blanket?
Does that Shangrila weight inc pegs btw?

For a 'working' sub-8lb basal kit weight I've set max levels for main items as follows:

PACK 200
SHELTER 500
GROUND INSULATION 250
SLEEPING BAG 400
RAINWEAR 250
KITCHEN 400
SPARE+WARMWEAR 500
ACCESSORIES: 1000
including:
Wash kit 94
1st aid 81
FOOTCARE 100
SunCream 28
Compass 10
Maps FootPrint 40
Insect Repellant Wipes 44
Pencil 1
Lipsyl 10
Petzl E+Lite (clip-on) 21
UV50 Umbrella 159
Phone/Camera 100
Spare Battery for above 20
PicoSolarCharger 59

hope this helps,
cheers
lwm
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#56107 - 17/06/10 01:11 PM Re: Ultralight advice? [Re: lightweightmick]
Dargie25 Offline
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Registered: 16/06/10
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I dont think the weight includes tent pegs, though iv got my eye on some titanium ones which together would come to 36g, and the not too expensive.I do think I have seen a space blanket around here somewhere too.

Out if interest mick, what do you use for a pack?

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#56115 - 17/06/10 05:13 PM Re: Ultralight advice? [Re: Dargie25]
Philly Offline
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Registered: 22/10/05
Posts: 70
Loc: United Kingdom
Ditch the tent, sleeping bag and stay in B and Bs. Have your pack moved place to place. Doesn't get more ultralight than that. Glad I could help.

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#56118 - 17/06/10 05:38 PM Re: Ultralight advice? [Re: Philly]
Philly Offline
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Registered: 22/10/05
Posts: 70
Loc: United Kingdom
On a serious note your waterproofs seem on the heavy side. I use a very cheap Regatta set (in summer only) - light and packs to nothing. It will keep you dry (ish) but condensation can be an issue.

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#56119 - 17/06/10 06:02 PM Re: Ultralight advice? [Re: Philly]
Dargie25 Offline
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Registered: 16/06/10
Posts: 57
Originally Posted By: Philly
Ditch the tent, sleeping bag and stay in B and Bs. Have your pack moved place to place. Doesn't get more ultralight than that. Glad I could help.


Might do if the budget allowed mate wink

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