LWM,
Re above, see 'Other Walks'
Dave.

Hi Dave, yeah I'm wondering what the crossover point is between supported crossings and more self-supporting attempts carrying at least their overnight stuff in the form of bivvy bag or tent etc. I reckon a good runner could cover the route in 3 days unsupported and totally self-sufficient and maybe this is what Barry Pincer (52) did on his 3 dayer..?
Sent MH a thank you email btw,
and thanks again to yourself for making that possible
cheers
mick

Agood runner doing it in three days. Distance running even a 26 mile marathon takes some learning to get right. I fall fowl above marathon distance as my natural tendency when I was running regularly was to go a bit too fast.
It is hard to run or walk at slower than your natural pace, that's why it takes some learning to used to it.
A very good one of our clubs marathon runners (sub 2hr 25min) ran with his wife many years ago in the Mersey Marathon, one of my favorites. His wife ran her expected time and was obviously tired but otherwise fine. However he, running at way below below his natural comfortable pace suffered badly after 18 miles and finished in a heap. He could only put it down to the unnatural pace. I had a similar experience when running well and trying to pace a colleague round the Brampton to Carlisle 10 mile road race inside 60 minutes. I was already running slower that my then 5.30 min mile pace for that route, but kept having to slow to over 6min pace as he kept lagging behind. He finished 30 seconds over the hour mark, but it messed up my running for a couple of weeks.
Dave.

Hi Dave,
of course 'good runners' in this sense doesn't apply to marathon runners. Road runners would balk at the idea of maintaining 13-15mm pace for 12 hrs. Training for speed and a 2 1/2 hr window - anything much over this and they would find that they are 'on their feet too long'. A 'bad' marathon runner (ie slow) that can stay on feet all day much more suited to the terrain.
eg. at 63m per day (3 dayer) 18hr day at 17mm pace (resting/stop time to be subtracted from that pace)
cheers
mick

Re original subject - just come back from Go Outdoors with a HiGear Blaze Titanium stove - £25 with their 'discount card'.
Just tested it. The pan is supported by the burner itself on 3 fold-out arms hinged to a built in windshield similar to the PR. The burner is quite big for a small stove too (48mm- Pocket Rocket's is around 34mm) - just boiled half a pint of water in under 2mins. Worth checking out at 48gms! (though I make it 46gms)
EN417 compatible (direct screw fitting onto gas cylinder only) the instructions say it should only be used with 230g size cartridges. I've just tried it on the C100 - they may be thinking stability as the burner supports and the burner are quite big for a sm stove.

2 cons:
1)there is no support collar like on the PR - the weight of any cookpot is bourne by the threads and seal only.
2)The 3 support legs rattle a bit (but the rivets could be peigned over a little more) - I'll try this as there's nothing worse than something rattling in the pack...

cheers
lwm