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#60297 - 19/03/11 07:26 AM Re: Newbie 12+ day journey [Re: Evil Budgie]
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Registered: 30/07/09
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Loc: Yorkshire
Walking gear is no different from a lot of others equipment that folks buy. Some people have to have the latest iphone, tv, car etc, some walkers need to have the latest trousers, shirts, jumpers etc regardless of whether they are actually better than more cost effective items. This is what some manufacturers rely on ... people buying because they are "new" or "cool".

There is absolutely no need to fork out 40 to 50 on labelled trousers. Go for a cheaper pair. If you really want specialist ones you can pick up Regatta or Craghoppers Kiwis at sales or on the net (or even clones) far cheaper.


I would certainly go for (what I call) a sewn in groundsheet. Much more convenient in wet weather.

I use an self inflating mattress (Antioch, then 50). This was the best when I bought it (as I like a good nights sleep), but far cheaper ones are now available. I believe Lidl were selling them at about 12 quite recently. Again, much more convenient and comfy in my opinion.

You can drain your bank account quite alarmingly if you go OTT. Today, adequate equipment is available quite cheaply if you shop around. As I have said quite frequently, walk around Keswick, Ambleside, Hawes and you see specialist gear by the boatload. Go onto the hills and it is as rare as hens teeth!

Good boots, socks, waterproofs are essential and make do with the rest unless you intend to be a regular walker.

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#60308 - 19/03/11 03:27 PM Re: Newbie 12+ day journey [Re: slowcoach]
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Starting from basically scratch is going to cost. My own collection of excellent gear has been purchased over many years, usually one thing at a time, as I have discovered from my own experiences, what is good and what is bad.
As SC says you can get adequate gear quite cheaply, but naturally you shouldn't expect it to be the best or anywhere near the best. You may not understand quite what I mean by that, but after a time you will. You will find annoying little things with your gear, be a comfort issue, weight, or rapid disintegration, then you will understand why quality is important.
As the saying goes 'Pay cheap, pay twice'.
Having said that, I have bought expensive items and quickly discovered that they are not quite what I was looking for. My son has built up quite a collection of my brand new cast offs.
I have also bought cheaper items, when doing something special and when experimenting, rather than buy top quality that I may end up not using much.
In fact I have just taken delivery of a two season Sleeping Bag which for the price appears excellent and had a built in optional Midge net. I am thinking this being if synthetic fill may be better for Bivvy baggin than my Down bag. Time and testing will tell. Have a look at the site, apart from the bag look at other gear some really good prices for kit that may not be the best but certainly is better than adequate:-
http://www.gapyeartravelstore.com/Snugpak-Traveller-2-Season-Sleeping-Bag-p-391.html
Dave.

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#60318 - 19/03/11 11:07 PM Re: Newbie 12+ day journey [Re: Slogger]
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Yea I want stuff that'll last and I'll be looking around online. It's about value really. If something is more expensive but it's better value because it will last and it's quality then I'll buy it without a second thought. I walk out and about plenty anyway.

Anyway good value or not:

http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/monte-cargo-pant-p159218

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#60322 - 20/03/11 12:38 PM Re: Newbie 12+ day journey [Re: Evil Budgie]
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Originally Posted By: Evil Budgie
Yea I want stuff that'll last and I'll be looking around online. It's about value really. If something is more expensive but it's better value because it will last and it's quality then I'll buy it without a second thought. I walk out and about plenty anyway.

Anyway good value or not:

http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/monte-cargo-pant-p159218


Yes excellent value, I have a similar pair by Rohan, which cost around 100, over ten years ago and still going strong.
The only thing is, these are pure Winter trousers and are far too warm in anything but really cold conditions.
You will be better off with some lightweight quick drying trousers and taking separate waterproof trousers for when it rains heavily. Don't spend much on waterproof trousers. I only spend around 20 on mine and if I get two years out of them, Ive had good value.
Have alook at these, especially:-
Craghoppers Mens Classic (Long)
Pro Climate
Hi Gear Typhoon Waterproof Over trousers.
http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/mens/clothing/legwear
Dave.

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#60431 - 25/03/11 12:32 AM Re: Newbie 12+ day journey [Re: Slogger]
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Loc: Billingham, Teesside, UK
Okay here's my provisional shopping list:

Cheap waterproof foldy up coat thing (got one already which I'll test out).
Craghoppers Mens Classic (Long)
Hi Gear Typhoon Waterproof Over trousers
The North Face Men's Sequoia Long-sleeve shirt (I only wear long-sleeved stuff)
Vango Tempest 200 tent (room for two, which I'm sure will come in handy eventually)
Vango Ultralite 300 sleeping bag
Camera stuff
Karrimor summit WP mens walking trainers (had these for a couple of weeks - very happy with them, particularly at less than 30, they're also deliberately on the spacious side so they'll fit after swelling - they're a 46 euro size)
Scarpa Terra GTX boots (assuming they'll fit etc., go up to 47 euro size apparently)


Any personal experiences with this stuff, again would I need a groundsheet for the tent?

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#60434 - 25/03/11 09:06 AM Re: Newbie 12+ day journey [Re: Evil Budgie]
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All sounds good to me, except that I would get a more substantial waterproof jacket.
The Vango tent has a built in groundsheet as per norm for modern tents. You wont need a separate groundsheet, although I often take a separate 'footprint' with mine which is spread out beneath the sewn in one. This isn't usually necessary but protects the tent groundsheet on stony and muddy ground.
I have an Ultralite sleeping bag, which is excellent and can be well compressed.
Dave.

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#60442 - 25/03/11 08:19 PM Re: Newbie 12+ day journey [Re: Slogger]
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Registered: 30/07/09
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Loc: Yorkshire
If you are taking a fleece with you I would just go for a normal shirt and not bother with a specialist one.

I would also consider taking a lightweight mattress (self inflating?)A good nights kip can make the following day far more comfortable (in my opinion)

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#60445 - 25/03/11 08:53 PM Re: Newbie 12+ day journey [Re: slowcoach]
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Not taking a fleece no, cold won't be a problem, over-heating probably will be. I'll get some sort of mattress or rolling foam thing - I'll sleep on practically anything really so isn't a big issue.

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#60447 - 25/03/11 09:57 PM Re: Newbie 12+ day journey [Re: Evil Budgie]
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Loc: Yorkshire
Don't underestimate the effects of wind chill on the tops, especially the Lakes. Even in mid summer the higher peaks and the exposed moorlands can be far colder than the sheltered valleys especially if you find that are unexpectedly camping in a frost hollow (yes we can have frosts in June and July in the hills). Even on some summer days the temperature may not warm up to a comfortable level until 9 or 10am. You will need some form of warm upper body covering other than a coat.

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#60450 - 26/03/11 12:02 AM Re: Newbie 12+ day journey [Re: slowcoach]
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Loc: Billingham, Teesside, UK
I don't feel the cold in the morning. I've a weird response to temperature. My hands will feel the cold because my circulation is terrible, I'll have some cheap hat/gloves for that. For virtually all of winter and autumn two layers has been enough.

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