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#62127 - 01/07/11 09:12 PM Re: Henry Stedman 2010 edition [Re: walkingwounded]
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Going back to one of the original questions on this thread, "The Three Tuns" pub at Cleator is up for sale and I believe has been granted planning permission to be converted to a private dwelling house.

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#62128 - 01/07/11 09:42 PM Re: Henry Stedman 2010 edition [Re: Slogger]
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Strangely enough, statistics (provided by on-path counters such as those below stiles, open access surveys and surveys along long distance paths) have shown a decline in the number of walkers over the past few years.

The greatest drop has been in the 18 to 25 year age group who have almost completely deserted walking for mountain biking. The number of youngsters (on D of E for example) has remained static but the number of school parties actually walking open countryside has declined dramatically .... possibly because teachers now prefer to take groups to activity centres where they are catered for by specialists.

The surprising result of the National trail surveys is that fewer and fewer people are doing a first usage, a majority of people interviewed on such as the Pennine Way are undertaking repeat crossings. How this will affect the future I don't know!

It is tempting to draw conclusions from such places as the Lakes which remain popular with specialist activities such as climbing and say that they are becoming more and more crowded .... which I personally think they are .... but it is less true to say that of the Dales, Moors or Northumberland. Overall, the trend away from the honeypots is certainly downwards.

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#62130 - 02/07/11 11:01 AM Re: Henry Stedman 2010 edition [Re: Slogger]
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Three Tuns Still Closed
Cattle not a problem.
Narrow stiles and fat bottom don't mix.
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#62134 - 02/07/11 04:08 PM Re: Henry Stedman 2010 edition [Re: Reluctanttrucker]
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I have never been bothered about walking through fields with cattle in them.If they have been on the footpath,i've just given them a wide berth.If they have been near stiles,as Slogger says a bit of bravado and they will soon back off and give way. However,whilst out with my girlfriend in the Peak District last year,we were walking through a field,on the footpath(no dog) and there were a herd of cattle(20-25)approx 50 yards away.We carried on and had more or less passed them when suddenly,as one they set off running straight towards us. Now,some of you might say that i should have stood my ground and been assertive,but let me assure you that in reality the only thing in our minds was to run.My girlfriend went over the stile first and i vaulted it and almost landed on top of her on the other side with the cattle breathing down my neck as i jumped.I cannot understand why they did it but it has now left me very wary and my girlfriend is terrified of the things to the extent that we have had to detour some distance whilst out walking.I will not be surprised to hear of more casualties in the future and i am one who would subscribe to the thought that something has changed in the nature of (certain) cattle.

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#62136 - 02/07/11 05:18 PM Re: Henry Stedman 2010 edition [Re: c2cer]
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I can guarentee if you were to stand your ground,wave your arms in large circles and shout very loudly even the most frisky bovines will bugger off in the away direction.
This I learned as a farmhand in my youth.
You could also just shout COME ON, several times, in a broad farmer type voice, and cows, being a bit thick will generally treat you as a friend and will generally wander in your direction thinking you have something for them, but a quick flick out of the arms will send them off again in the aforementioned away direction.
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#62137 - 02/07/11 05:19 PM Re: Henry Stedman 2010 edition [Re: Reluctanttrucker]
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or was that wolves?
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#62140 - 02/07/11 08:41 PM Re: Henry Stedman 2010 edition [Re: Reluctanttrucker]
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"I can guarentee if you were to stand your ground,wave your arms in large circles and shout very loudly even the most frisky bovines will bugger off in the away direction".


If they are protecting their young and they have Holstein blood coursing through their veins they won't. I can't imagine that the vet and the farmer didn't think to themselves before they met their end .... now ....I'll just try ......

Seriously though, it is an increasing problem of modern origin. Something has changed over the past few years ... crossbreeding or not. I think that it is incumbent on everyone to be that little bit more careful than they would have been some years ago.

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#62143 - 03/07/11 09:57 AM Re: Henry Stedman 2010 edition [Re: slowcoach]
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Certainly be aware of the potential danger, and avoid complacency. However there are bigger dangers when out walking than going through a field full of cattle. To be unduly concerned is unnecessary in my opinion.
Now a field full of pigs is a different matter, but then we shouldn't have been in that field in the first place.
Dave.

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#62154 - 03/07/11 08:36 PM Re: Henry Stedman 2010 edition [Re: Slogger]
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Unduly concerned .... certainly not ..... but extra vigilant, certainly ... ask c2cer how he feels now!

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#62184 - 04/07/11 05:41 PM Re: Henry Stedman 2010 edition [Re: Slogger]
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Originally Posted By: Slogger

Now a field full of pigs is a different matter, but then we shouldn't have been in that field in the first place.
Dave.

That goes for the sheep too, Dave. But I did promise not to tell anyone about that.
Oooops.Sorry.
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