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#63575 - 14/12/11 05:01 AM Deviations from the Way
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Registered: 18/01/05
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For my walk next spring, I have decided to rewalk the CW, my first time was six years ago. I will extend my walking into the Langdales, hitting some tops, then carry over into Eskdale for some more summits.

My walk will start at the train station in Leeds with my third night in Kettlewell. From there, I want to divert over to Horton, climb Ingleborough, and continue on to Dent.

My first question, what is the best way to walk from Kettlewell to Horton. One option is over to Arncliffe, then up and around Plover Hill, over to Pen-Y-Ghent. Another option is to follow the CW up to Yockenthwaite, cut over to Halton Gill, then around Plover Hill and so on. Is anyone familiar with these paths?

Second question, is there a path from Ribblehead Viaduct across the moor to Cowgill (other than going through Gearstones). I know the Craven Way to Dent, but I walked that one last year and I would like to get back on the CW.

Any help would be appreciated.

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#63582 - 14/12/11 06:02 PM Re: Deviations from the Way [Re: Gregg]
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Hi Gregg,
Am I reading that coreectly. You mention you want to get back on the CW and maybe follow the CW to Yockenthwaite.
I take you really mean the DW (Dales Way)?
Dave

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#63583 - 14/12/11 06:54 PM Re: Deviations from the Way [Re: Slogger]
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Oops, I really meant the DW. Scratch the CWs, I really am walking the DW (Dales Way). So the other option to Horton would be to follow the DW from Kettlewell to Yockenthwaite, then divert over to Halton Gill, Plover Hill and Horton.

I've been writing up my Cumbria Way walk from 2010, so I'm a little google-eyed.

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#63584 - 15/12/11 08:44 PM Re: Deviations from the Way [Re: Gregg]
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Gregg,
I did a walk in April of this year before my C2C. It was a cicular from Horton, to Pen Y Ghent, over Plover Hill, down to Foxup and Halton Gill.
I then took the path for Beckermonds on the Dales Way. The track for Yockenthwaite exits this path out of Halton Gill, and turns right after a few hundred metres.
Anyway I carried on to beckermonds to meet the dales way and followed it through Oughtershaw to the Pennine way and then followed that back to Horton.
The path from Pen Y Ghent to Halton Gill was mostly on grass and some track.
You would be doing it in reverse of my route of course but you may get the idea.
Hope this link works.
https://picasaweb.google.com/101559091367211262061/WalkInYorks3PeakArea
Dave.

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#63585 - 16/12/11 12:59 AM Re: Deviations from the Way [Re: Slogger]
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Dave, the link didn't work, possibly timed out. But thanks for the information on your walk - it was the reverse of what I want to do and it lets me know that I don't have to be concerned about the path. I did find routes in this area on Walking Englishman and George Tod's websites, but your walk was the only one that connected to Yockenthwaite.

This deviation from the DW avoids the Cam House bogs and the Roman Road, but puts me over Ingleborough which I missed earlier this year. I will follow the rail line from Ribbleshead over to near Cowgill to rejoin the DW.

Thanks for your help.

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#63588 - 16/12/11 06:53 PM Re: Deviations from the Way [Re: Gregg]
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Ive put on as photo blog.
http://slogger-3peaksarealoop.blogspot.com/
Dave.

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#63589 - 16/12/11 10:29 PM Re: Deviations from the Way [Re: Slogger]
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Very nice photos Dave. Good to see what the lay of the land is east of Pen-Y-Ghant.
You had some great weather, hope I do as well.
Cheers

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#63591 - 17/12/11 10:20 AM Re: Deviations from the Way [Re: Slogger]
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Hi Dave
Nice photo's, looks like a nice walk in a stunning area.
What distance is the loop ?
Les

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#63593 - 17/12/11 04:31 PM Re: Deviations from the Way [Re: Les + Heidi]
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Hi Dave,
I enjoyed photo's,
brought back some happy memories
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#63594 - 17/12/11 08:55 PM Re: Deviations from the Way [Re: Les + Heidi]
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Originally Posted By: Les + Heidi
Hi Dave
Nice photo's, looks like a nice walk in a stunning area.
What distance is the loop ?
Les


From memory (careful) it was around 23 miles.
Dave.

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#63610 - 20/12/11 06:04 PM Re: Deviations from the Way [Re: Slogger]
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With regard to an alternative from Kettlewell over to Ribblesdale, one of the best walks I've ever done was the length of the ridge of Birks Fell from Kettlewell (Kettlewell, Birks Fell, Firth Fell, Horse Head Moor, Cosh Outside) then dropping down and back up to Plover Hill and down Penyghent. I would definately recommend doing that.

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#63611 - 20/12/11 06:29 PM Re: Deviations from the Way [Re: Rhodesy]
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Originally Posted By: Rhodesy
With regard to an alternative from Kettlewell over to Ribblesdale, one of the best walks I've ever done was the length of the ridge of Birks Fell from Kettlewell (Kettlewell, Birks Fell, Firth Fell, Horse Head Moor, Cosh Outside) then dropping down and back up to Plover Hill and down Penyghent. I would definately recommend doing that.


Is that on paths or just following walls?
Dave.

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#63636 - 24/12/11 07:35 PM Re: Deviations from the Way [Re: Slogger]
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Following walls, although there tend to be minor paths on much of the Access Land, and there are stiles for most if not all the wall crossings. If I remember rightly, visiting the Horse Head trig point means you need to go through a gate and follow the other side of the wall for a few hundred yards then retrace your steps to get back onto the right side of the wall.

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#63730 - 04/01/12 04:32 PM Re: Deviations from the Way [Re: Rhodesy]
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There is a clear, easy to follow path alongside the summit wall all the way from the trig point at Old Cote Moor Top to the Trig point at Cosh Outside.

I picked it up at Old Cote Moor having used the bridleway from Litton, noticing that the path appeared to start well to the south east.

After Cosh Outside I followed the watershed as far as Plover Hill. This is mainly untrodden fell as it involves picking your way up the outcrop north of Plover Hill. On the day that I did it the watershed around Lante Shop was only passable with care and wearing wellingtons or boots. Some of this may be avoidable using the adjacent footpath to the east (after crossing the bridleway). There is a well trodden path between Plover Hill and Pen-y-ghent

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#63737 - 05/01/12 12:03 AM Re: Deviations from the Way [Re: slowcoach]
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Yes Slowcoach and Rhodsey, that looks like quite a nice ridge walk from Old Cote Moor Top to Horse Head and Cosh Outside, just the kind of walk I like. But I would be concerned about finding my way on my own and getting from Cosh to Plover Hill.
If I had a guide, I might consider it. But for now, my plans are to follow the DW to Yokenthwaite, cut over to Halton Gill (with a side walk up to Horse Head trig point), then over to Plover Hill and Pen-y-ghent.

Thanks a lot guys for all the information and suggestions. It has helped my planning tremendously.

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#63738 - 05/01/12 07:54 AM Re: Deviations from the Way [Re: Gregg]
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Just a thought ...... have you considered ....

Grassington ... Threshfield ...Minor road to Mastiles Lane Follow Mastiles (unmade up track, easy to follow) to Street Gate .... Water Houses and then follow the Pennine Way to Pen-y-gent. Very easy walking. clear tracks, includes Fountains Fell (on route) and Darnbrook as a deviation.

Mind you, there is a summit wall all the way along the Horse Head ridge so there are no navigational problems. You can then cut down the easy to follow track to Halton Gill.

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#63739 - 05/01/12 07:54 AM Re: Deviations from the Way [Re: Gregg]
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Just a thought ...... have you considered ....

Grassington ... Threshfield ...Minor road to Mastiles Lane Follow Mastiles (unmade up track, easy to follow) to Street Gate .... Water Houses and then follow the Pennine Way to Pen-y-gent. Very easy walking. clear tracks, includes Fountains Fell (on route) and Darnbrook as a deviation.

Mind you, there is a summit wall all the way along the Horse Head ridge so there are no navigational problems. You can then cut down the easy to follow track to Halton Gill.

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#63741 - 05/01/12 07:02 PM Re: Deviations from the Way [Re: Gregg]
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It isn't too tricky to get from Cosh to Plover Hill as long as you follow the walls and have the right map (1:25000) as these show waals. However, your plan sounds pretty decent too - enjoy!

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#63742 - 05/01/12 08:41 PM Re: Deviations from the Way [Re: Rhodesy]
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It's great fun examining the maps for various routes, there are so many ways to walk to Pen-y-ghent. Slowcoach, I have previously walked the Pennine Way, plus I am booked into Kettlewell YHA, so I am committed to approaching Horton from the east.

That said, I am still intrigued by the ridge from Old Cote Moor Top to the Horse Head trig point. Knowing there is a wall to follow makes a difference. Now, how to access the wall? From Kettlewell, there is a track north to Moor End, then a path continuing slightly north and turns west to gain the ridge at 520 m. On the map, I see a path coming up from the south at this point but I don't see anything northward along the ridge. My question, does the wall along the ridge extend this far south? If not, how obvious is the way along the ridge? This could be a good plan and I should be able to get more info in Kettlewell. What do you'all think?

Cheers

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#63743 - 05/01/12 09:17 PM Re: Deviations from the Way [Re: Gregg]
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Rather than heading north out of Kettlewell, I would head south on the path to Hawkswick. You can follow this as far as the wall and then turn right (keeping the wall on your left), or cut across to join it earlier on.

Doing this means you join the ridge south of the trig point at 434metres (called Middlesmoor Pasture, although it stands about a kilometre south-east of where this is written on the map).

Then follow the wall, keeping it on your left, for about 3 miles to Old Cote Moor Top. Cross a stile and go to a wall to the east which leads to the 607metre Firth Fell trig point.

From here, just keep on top of the ridge, keeping the wall on your left and being careful not to drop down too much. The two spots where you'd need to check the map a bit more closely are near High Combe Stoop and then after Horse Head trig point as at both locations you change direction a bit and there are a few walls coming together.

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#63746 - 06/01/12 03:42 PM Re: Deviations from the Way [Re: Rhodesy]
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Unless the mist is down there are no navigational problems. You are walking along a ridge with a wall running along the top. For a vast majority of the way you can see the valleys at each side of you. So, basically, having attained the summit wall you merely follow it along the top of the ridge to beyond Cosh. Even before the trig point at Horse Head you can the whole of your route ahead quite clearly.

You can also see (again assuming that them isn't isn't down) the slopes of Plover Hill once the bulk of Darnbrook Fell is out of the line of sight.

The footpath due west from Kettlewell is initially clear and then has places where it becomes indistinct. However, there are no problems just heading the short distance upwards to the wall.

The bridleway to through Moor farm and the one which meets it and ascends the ridge is also easy to follow. It passes through the summit wall at a gap so all tracks head for this point

Rhodesy's route is also easy to follow although a tad longer. Don't worry about navigation though for, if the weather is clear it is a doddle. If it is bad, I should stick to a lower alternative.

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#63749 - 06/01/12 05:08 PM Re: Deviations from the Way [Re: slowcoach]
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Registered: 18/01/05
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I like this plan, it should be a doodle. Those are nice, clear comments on the path Rhodesy and Slowcoach. I'll probably strike out due west of Kettlewell to meet up with the wall. I am excited about walking the ridge. However, like any higher level walk, it all depends on the weather; like Slowcoach suggests, I will stick to the Dales Way to Yokenthwaite if rain is thwarting the views.

Thanks again guys. You have been a big help.

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