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#67879 - 24/02/12 05:55 PM Re: Wholly unsupported crossing. [Re: slowcoach]
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"What kind of security risks are involved?"

The following is pure supposition (on my part)

I have posted before that there are a number of areas in the northern wildernesses that are off limits to the public, albeit unofficially. I know of 2 in the Dales, 1 on the moors and 2 in the (wider) Lakes ..... there may be more. These are valleys with a restricted entry which can be sealed off by the simple action of closing the entry road. The reason is that the houses in these areas have been commandeered for retiring "bigwigs" who must avoid the limelight.

In the recent past there has been a wedding in one of these valleys. The father was a high ranking officer and there were several other "targets" including senior politicians there. The access was closed for "drainage work" which prevented public usage.

There are also a number of usable Auxiliary Unit bunkers remaining, one accessed from within a greenhouse, another below a grouse butt. Two more lie close to the Coast to Coast walk.

Again, some Starfish sites remain which are occupiable ... though whether ever used by service personnel I don't know. One I can mention (as it is no longer used) is at Percy Cross south west Guisborough, less than 1 mile south of the Cleveland Way if anyone wants shelter for a night!

I BELIEVE, though can't confirm, that these are available for specialist usage. Should special forces therefore use them the danger lies in their discovery rather than danger to the personnel. I haven't located them yet though I have been told where the greenhouse is.

How do I know? These are rumours that you pick up from local farmers or historians in the area.

I have no military experience so apologies for technical inaccuracies!

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#67993 - 24/02/12 09:16 PM Re: Wholly unsupported crossing. [Re: slowcoach]
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No offence mate but you are beginning to sound just a little bit like your sidekick...

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#68017 - 24/02/12 09:53 PM Re: Wholly unsupported crossing. [Re: lightweightmick]
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If you have ever been in one of these ex-ABU's its about the last place you would want to sleep after walking 70 miles.We used to mess around in one of these places when we were kids,it was damp,smelly and rat infested.Each to their own but I certainly wouldn't want to sleep in one of these places.

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#68339 - 25/02/12 06:45 AM Re: Wholly unsupported crossing. [Re: lightweightmick]
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Originally Posted By: lightweightmick
No offence mate but you are beginning to sound just a little bit like your sidekick...


No offence taken. Posted purely from the interest point of view. Just really to show that there are things out there that not everyone is aware of.

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#68505 - 25/02/12 11:11 AM Re: Wholly unsupported crossing. [Re: slowcoach]
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much respect SC as you are undoubtedly a great source of info on the site, but where's the security risk to a bivvy at Scarth Gap (as witnessed by yourself - though how sj came to be a part of that group seems unclear as they were finishing a 65hr attempt and he was doing a 100hr when he met you...) or another at most likley site at Smardale? It doesn't make sense - secret valleys and all that... I don't get the connection...
I understand the difficulties with a larger group operating in a clandestine manner, but still don't get the need for such secrecy especially when 'non identifiable' clothing is worn.
Initial enquires re the 65hr challenge is that it may be organized by an elite branch of the Parachute regiment, though I've not been able to verify this. I still think it unlikely to be organised by a civillian, though maybe a retired officer possibly.
cheers
lwm

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#68532 - 25/02/12 11:45 AM Re: Wholly unsupported crossing. [Re: lightweightmick]
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Initial enquires re the 65hr challenge is that it may be organized by an elite branch of the Parachute regiment,


Probably the Pathfinders.

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#68622 - 25/02/12 01:39 PM Re: Wholly unsupported crossing. [Re: tonyk]
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http://www.cumbrialife.co.uk/left-right-...rrerPath=2.1967

Well it looks like they did it in two days and marched all the way with 40lb packs.Only catch is that it was a relay of 15 mile stints.Each team did about 45-50 miles and its was desribed as extremely arduous due to the weight of the kit.Still a great achievement and a lot of money raised for a worthwhile cause.

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#68628 - 25/02/12 01:49 PM Re: Wholly unsupported crossing. [Re: tonyk]
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Another report about the walk here.They completed it in 37 hours,well ahead of schedule.

http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=4815203477

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#68655 - 25/02/12 02:45 PM Re: Wholly unsupported crossing. [Re: tonyk]
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Yeah these guys are the cream, dedicated and superbly fit for role.
Looks like each 4 man team did 3 x 15+ mile legs each, so had around 7.5 hours recovery time in between each one.
Averaging 6mph, means they were doubling most of the way apart from steep ascents. A terrific achievement.
Dave.

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#68656 - 25/02/12 02:46 PM Re: Wholly unsupported crossing. [Re: tonyk]
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ha ha, Tony I'm beginning to see the funny side of this... sgtjames is a complete wind up lol - ARRSE explains everything!
Check out 49Para...
such a good bunch of guys don't deserve to get shot at IMO, (unfortunatley, that's what they get paid for...)
Here's someone that's done a quick crossing and is taking full advantage of a chance for a good wind up - it's just second nature to 'em...
Of course an elite section of military are going to spare time to raise funds in public view for a valuable cause but in reality do the same thing, only better, in secrecy - that's good - that's beyond 'top secret' that is...
ARRSE - *brilliant* lol - now go and fetch 2 skyhooks and a breeze filter...

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