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#70217 - 24/04/12 10:58 AM C2C. Fast Light & Direct.
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It's going to be sooner rather than later for me, for another crossing.
I was going to go next week, but an infection and on antibiotics till next Monday has put paid to that. Probably put it back a week or two, it may be a bit warmer by then anyway.
Ive got a sort of direct line worked out, not the most direct as I don't want too many road sections and want to keep it interesting.
However LWM has a totally different line worked out through the Lakes, which looks feasible but as I like to do previous routes the opposite way, I'll probalby stay with the line I took last time.
It will work or it wont.
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#70219 - 24/04/12 11:18 AM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: Slogger]
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Standby, Sgt James reporting for duty...........

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#70228 - 24/04/12 05:50 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: tonyk]
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Originally Posted By: tonyk
Standby, Sgt James reporting for duty...........


Ha, ha , just what I was thinking.
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#70239 - 25/04/12 03:50 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: Slogger]
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Just out of interest my new 1st day has a total of 5.08 miles of road...
This includes Bridge Holme Lane (1.61), Ellerbeck Bridge (.08), Raisdale Rd (.24), Past Scugdale Hall (.56), Piper Road (more of a quiet lane? but included adding 1.23),Arnecliffe to A19 (Wainwright anyway) (1.0), and (omitting Long Lane and Deighton Lane again WW's route) Oaktree Hill .36 to bunkhse.
Be interesting to compare this to a standard Wainwright and your last route sticking to the road to Littlebeck.
However, choosing to follow the LWW to Round Hill, thus missing WW's road sections could have it's problems after prolonged wet weather of course not to mention the prevailing wind on the day...
I'll check out the rest as time permits as some sections have been chosen deliberately with the sole purpose of more direct westward progress. Other sections (ie. Ambleside) because there is no other direct alternative...
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#70240 - 25/04/12 03:53 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: lightweightmick]
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How light you intending on Dave?
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#70241 - 25/04/12 05:30 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: lightweightmick]
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My route includes a bit more road than last time but no more than 5 mile, I would think. As you know when theres a path going off in loup, but a road going straighter with your intended line, it's tempting and obvious to use the road. All depends on how direct you want to make it.
I wanted to include the villages of Gromont to Glaisdale as I particularly liked that stretch and the AW route across the Vale of Mowbry. Any part of the Lakes would do for me but I am going with my last route there apart from using Deepdale rather than Fairfield summit.
The HS problem we discussed, I have decided (unless it's really wet) to go the South side of the summit.
I intend going W - E this time.
As for weight I'll have to carry a bit more than last time possibly, as I am thinking of going self sufficient.
Looking back at last time, I reckon I can get across on 10,000 cals provided by 2.6 KG of carbs, plus isotonics.
probably looking at a starting weight with 1 Litre water of around 24 - 25 Lbs.
Any idea of when you may go.
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#70244 - 25/04/12 09:51 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: Slogger]
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'tempting'? ...why tempting? The whole point of the 72 hr idea is to get across as directly as possible surely? - that's what I've aimed for, after all we aren't 'cheating' on Wainwright's suggested route anyway or anyone else's for that matter, but devising our own, which is a damn site more challenging than following a guidebook. As you know it takes forever to plot a route and compare that section with an alternative esp. when trying to keep elevation to a minimum at the same time.
No date set for me yet - concentrating on building up still. Got round a 20m on Sunday in under 5hrs (4:56:49) with 9lbs pack, struggled from 15m with hip pain though which slowed me down. I couldn't see me adding another 24m, which I need to acheive to match day 1's 45m. If you remember I plan to use bunkhouses on this one with bivvy for back up or emergency.
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#70245 - 25/04/12 09:54 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: lightweightmick]
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In an effort to discover the status of the stepping stones I rang the post office at Tebay. The lady I spoke to had no idea...
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#70246 - 25/04/12 10:09 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: lightweightmick]
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Lightweight

So you are aiming for a 72 hour crossing despite your disbelief that highly trained service personnel can complete the walk in only 7 hours less.

I hope that you succeed. Then perhaps you will believe that 65 hours is achievable, if not by yourself, but by others younger and fitter.

I think that you must harbour some ideas, however small, that I might after all, be genuine.

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#70247 - 25/04/12 10:52 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: sgtjames]
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Not arguing Mick. I like your route, but think it's good that we have chosen slightly different lines in places, especially through the Lakes.
I haven't set a deadline as such, but obviously inside of 5 days, however I will aim to get across as fast as I can this time, within the confines of enjoyment, which is the most important thing for me.
I'm not interested in head down keep going simply to get across in the shortest possible time, Ive done too much of that sort of thing in the past, so my route has been chosen with this in mind too.
After this success or failure, I will switch my attention to other things in the pipeline, like the Cambrian Way, which I have been researching lately. There is so much out there and so little spare time.
Dave.

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#70257 - 26/04/12 12:51 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: Slogger]
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By the way, after re reading my first post in this subject, I may have left the impression that LWM's route contained a lot of road rather than paths. To avoid confusion, this is not what I was meaning, the reference to roads was directed at my own route.
In fact both our routes contain roughly the same road mileage, but in different areas.
I was considering asking Mick if it was ok to use his route through the Lakes in reverse, but then thought I'd really like to reverse my last line instead.
Anyway before any of this we are having a week in the Cotswolds. When we return I may change my mind completely and go for 5 day (non self sufficient) high level route instead.
Dave.

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#77389 - 04/02/13 03:33 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: Slogger]
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It did indeed appear that way Dave... though this set me on a course of working out just how much road my route choice involved compared to Wainwright's.
Well, just to clarify the matter, with a little free time on my hands of late, I've had some time to check over my figures from last year:

Day1 - I make W/W's total mileage between RHB and Lovesome Hill (depending on how much road is used at the head of Rosedale) to be just over 12 or 13 miles.
My own route has a mere 4.86 miles.

WW's longer stretches are from the caravan park to Graystone turn off at 2.22 - (the longer being 3.03 if all rd is used at the hd of Rosedale) - Grosmont tarmac accounts for 1.5m.

My longest stretch comes early on at Bridgeholme Lane - 1.62m, followed by Ingleby to A19 at 1.02m (which is WW anyway)

Day 2(L/Hill to Keld) via W/Wright longest section looks like the long Streetlam to Whitwell section @ 3.48m*- which compares favourably to my own of 3.89 (Hard Stiles)
My own daily total of rd miles coming out provisionally at 12.85m compared to WW's 11.11m - slightly over on Day2 then, but not so much to get excited about...

* both calcs using the Footpath section between DW and Streetlam - ie. rd from DW, then Fpath and back to rd to Whitwell (all rd would make this 1.27m more tarmac)

Day3 (Keld to Kentmere) works out less favourably:
Relying on the road section in Birkdale (mine - not your suggested alt to boundary Dave - though this may prove better yet) becomes the longest stretch at 3.66m (though there is a footpath stretch that would reduce this by 1.45m) and a section to Tebay of 2.39m. Daily total road currently then works out at 11.67, whereas WW's is a mere 7.22 (7.37 if using Brownber, R/Stonedale Moor to Orton route) enroute to Shap.

Day4 (Kentmere to SBees) entails 7.26m (longest stretch being at Skelwith Bridge @ 1.94m followed by Cleator Moor @ 1.81m.
WW's road total section from Shap to finish works out at 6.67m (though this does include Sandwith up to quarry - not shown as metalled on O/S but is in fact all the way to Quarry Bungalows)

So, for what it's worth, total road sections:
Mine: 36.64
W/W's: 37.02

To be fair Alf chose quiet roads where possible, but something has to go to reduce the overall distance and my choice of Kiplin to Bolton Cross, Hard Stiles alt and Birkdale to Lune Valley can clearly be justified with the outcome of a swifter crossing. If anyone can come up with a better plan, I'd like to hear it,
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#77402 - 06/02/13 04:31 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: Slogger]
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Just had a quick road mileage check on my proposed direct line for the C2C and as I previously said, it is roughly the same as LWM's proposed route. I get mine at around 35 miles, so in fact AW's, Mine and Micks are so close, it's not worth arguing about.
Just shows that even working out a more direct line than AW's original route, you have to use 'some' road sections.
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#77403 - 06/02/13 07:03 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: Slogger]
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Correction to my previous. I can't add up. My road mileage comes in at 40 miles not 35 as stated.
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#77409 - 06/02/13 09:18 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: Slogger]
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I think some have the notion that staying to roads will make the whole thing shorter and somehow easier - but keeping to a direct line makes using entirely road even would be totally impracticle. It has to be a mixture of whatever gets in the way. I have to admit that my preferred choice does involve 2 'busier' sections - then again it depends on what time of day you'll be using a particular section anyway... (sorr, keep getting distracted here...)
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#77410 - 06/02/13 09:19 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: lightweightmick]
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...impractical as well
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#77414 - 07/02/13 11:51 AM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: Slogger]
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I do agree Mick. In fact the AW route probably makes use of the least amount of road that you could get away with, and as you say as straight a line as possible, means that extra road miles is inevitable. It's those long straight road miles that I particularly don't like, so personaly would try to avoid. That road from Orton to near Sunbiggin Tarn, I remember being particularly bored with on my last crossing, but for as near a direct line as possible on my route, I guess it will have to be done.
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#77427 - 12/02/13 12:33 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: Slogger]
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Re the Orton road section - look at it this way Dave, Raisbeck/Grimesmoor at least is more E/W than the Mazon Wath choice which is much more N/S.
As for road -
via Mazon Wath: 1.84m (acc. for the shortcut at Lousy Brow); S/bigginFm/Acres adds .66m makes 2.5m (then a further .75 if missing Orton by Scarside)
Raisbeck alt: 2.25m (using FP from Bland Hse) then there's the additional half-mile Brownber to the moor Xing but this is wide and grassy easy walking beside the road making the Ravonstonedale Moor Xing a far better choice for F&L.
On my 1st Xing I found it most dispiriting to be heading NE after Smardale Bridge following that mad loop to get to the N of Bents Farm and the Mazon Wath Rd...
Sadly though there is no better alternative on my choice further south in the Lune Valley than the 2.36m into Tebay - though it won't be boring as every step would take me that bit nearer to a little respite in the form of The Old School Tea Rooms - mind you I should make a note that they be closed on Tuesdays...
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#77432 - 12/02/13 07:38 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: Slogger]
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What about those stepping stones, have they been replaced/rebuilt?
Dave.

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#77435 - 13/02/13 12:52 AM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: Slogger]
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dunno dave - one obstacle less - check out 2nd post on that thread. Might be a tad shorter by Old Tebay though...
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#77436 - 13/02/13 12:57 AM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: lightweightmick]
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...just to correct that previous post btw - should really read 'The Old School Guest House with tea room' - looks like light snacks only - soup and scone - service area prob more substantial..?
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#77437 - 13/02/13 01:04 AM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: lightweightmick]
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I only found out last week that the A685 thereabouts is built on the line of the former railway that went up Smardale...
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#79718 - 31/03/13 02:57 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: Slogger]
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I went Coast to coast in 48 minutes once upon a time ago.
Bugger cab those Tornados get a move on.
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#79751 - 31/03/13 11:31 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: Reluctanttrucker]
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Difficult to dip a wing tip in the sea though, eh?
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#80584 - 07/04/13 01:17 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: Slogger]
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Managed that right at the end but bally well pranged the joshing whole kite.
Good job I can swim.........
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#80818 - 10/04/13 01:31 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: Reluctanttrucker]
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Messy business, what? old chap
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#405749 - 23/08/13 08:45 AM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: lightweightmick]
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#405941 - 18/09/13 11:09 AM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: lightweightmick]
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Just reposting Dave's blog link here so I can find it more easily.

Just caught up with the videos on there too - good stuff.
That sunrise picture on Blakey is inspirational too - got me fired up to see if I can't get a similar pic on my next bash! My revamped schedule puts me at the Lion Inn by midnight on day2... if I can stick to it lol
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#405943 - 18/09/13 04:54 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: Slogger]
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W - E then. My target for end of day 2 was was Ing X, so at Gunnerside Bridge I was well short.
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#405947 - 18/09/13 09:56 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: Slogger]
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hmm, well, it all looks good on paper lol
It has to be said you had a cracking first day despite the setbacks Dave.
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#405950 - 19/09/13 04:07 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: lightweightmick]
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My revamped schedule puts me at the Lion Inn by midnight on day2...


Just to clarify - my ref is to elapsed time - ie. within 72 hrs, so around 67 - 68 hrs at Lion Inn...
With the best will in the world (and the brightest of moonlight) I can't see me making it under 3 days, though 3+ becomes a possibility...
(the '+' depending on state of legs and feet mainly...)

In fact the more I think about tackling the LWW walk at the end, the less I like the whole idea - at least the SPOT would send an exact location as I disappear into the bog lol
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#405951 - 19/09/13 06:16 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: lightweightmick]
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Originally Posted By: lightweightmick
hmm, well, it all looks good on paper lol
It has to be said you had a cracking first day despite the setbacks Dave.


Where I camped before Orton was my target, first stop and I was determined to not stop until I reached it. As I didn't reach there until 4am, I was later starting the second by around 4 hours from what I had planned. As a result I was well short on mileage for day 2.
For your info it took me 76 hrs 40min to reach the turn off before the Lion Inn.
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#405952 - 19/09/13 09:52 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: Slogger]
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Dave, I fully understand your intentions in wanting get as far as possible on day1, especially in view of your Spine Race target, but in retrospect do you feel that less on day1 would have left you better placed to get more in on day2, thus balancing up the difference maybe?
I know it's all too easy to theorize and speculate after the event though...
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#405953 - 19/09/13 11:41 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: Slogger]
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I think one thing is essential on these sort of walks and that is to keep as near as possible to you normal sleep pattern,at least when you settle down to sleep.Obviously the hours will have to be cut down but the body is used to going to sleep at a certain time and if that is altered it throws the entire system out.

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#405955 - 20/09/13 09:23 AM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: tonyk]
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This may well have helped me this year Tony - 2 good night's sleep - B&B (not planned) and bunkhse. Were it not for the injury slowing me down I'd have caught up at end of day 3. Though I did sleep well on the Klymit at Maggs Howe in tarp/midge tent, I was later getting down, and consequently later starting out on day4. I do think the 2 nights of good sleep helped me catch up though.
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#405956 - 20/09/13 11:24 AM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: Slogger]
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I don't think cutting the first day shorter would nave made any difference. My pace was fairly consistent throughout day one, obviously slower when ploughing through difficult terrain. From second day on, it was affected somewhat due to the change in gait brought on by the blsters and in particular, toe jam. Fatigue only slowed me very briefly on a couple of occasions otherwise my pace was steady.
On that first day I must have lost a 2/3 hours, with the initial problems at/near St. Bees, Red Beck, big nav error and changing route by going down Grisedale.
The extra mileage walking down the road to Muker, the long wait in the very busy pub for me meal etc etc.
You can always look back and find excuses for how if things had gone straight forward, you could have been faster, but the only way to be faster is to get everything right as planned, and that's not always how it goes.
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#405957 - 20/09/13 11:54 AM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: Slogger]
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Just purely going on the mileages you did Dave - 53m then 27m when 2*40m would have achieved the same to Gunside - though I appreciate that wasn't planned...
Nothing more frustrating than cracking on then having to wait for food though - that's why I decided to press on from Reeth on last failed attempt. I suppose a good rule for 'fast and light' if relying on pubs etc for food is avoid weekends and holiday periods (ie. you with Bank Hol - me with Reeth on a Saturday night)(afterthought: also at Maggs Howe - I arrived there Friday and the bunk hse was booked by a party otherwise I could have used a bunk and saved time on the tarp/tent setup and strike)
At least you did what you set out to do re the Spine race.
btw - you don't mention the poles in your kit - have you decided against them or will you only use them if snow is forecast for Spine?
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#405959 - 20/09/13 04:31 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: Slogger]
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Looking for some advice chaps. After 33or more yrs running & walking I have, for some reason started over pronating. At first i put it down to a pair of Columbia Treklites that i bought, it looked as though the mid-soles had collapsed so changed & tried a pair of Karrimor KSBs after about 200mls they are going same.Any ideas how to self correct (I.E. insoles etc) before spending s on visit to pedo.

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#405960 - 20/09/13 08:52 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: Slogger]
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Mick,
I understand where you are coming from re 2 x 40 equals the same. However being a bad sleeper anyway, I wasn't tired enough for sleep at 40 miles. Even at the camp spot before Orton, I forced the stop upon myself purely because of what I experienced during the Spine through lack of sleep. That didn't work properly as it was, and I do wonder if it would have been better just to push on until I did feel really tired and maybe had some proper sleep, possibly a really good power nap.
Mike,
Have you tried Superfeet insoles. They give your arch some support and may help. Not cheap though at 30 -40.
Blue ones for running and green for walking, they also orange ones with extra cushioning but they are around 40.
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#405961 - 20/09/13 10:16 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: Slogger]
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I suppose it's whatever you find works best Dave... from your earlier blogs and posts you usually go out like a light when your head hits. Is it a temporary situation?

I remember ringing RaceKit enquiring about the Klymit Xlite and Amanda answered the phone (under new ownership now) - she was most insistent that a good night's sleep was more important than anything else - ie. she was trying to put me off - mind you, I find it quite comfy...

Michael Arnstein a USA Ultra runner also swears by plenty of sleep and even advocates wearing a sleep mask - mind you he does live on fruit!
The Fruitarian - here doing 1st Badwater
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#405962 - 20/09/13 10:24 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: MIKE M]
lightweightmick Offline
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Registered: 18/11/04
Posts: 1696
Loc: North Derbyshire UK
Hi Mike,
a good running shop will do a 'Gait Analysis' for you.
Is this one near to you?

http://www.leicesterrunningshop.co.uk/index.php

I've been lucky... I did use some Spenco arch supports years ago but they gave me terrible shin splints. Mind you I didn't know what I was doing back then... and probably still don't!
cheers
mick
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#405964 - 21/09/13 10:26 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: Slogger]
tonyk Offline
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Registered: 16/02/04
Posts: 1033
Loc: UK
This shop might be a bit nearer.

http://www.running-fox.co.uk/

I have used them for the last twenty years and can recommend them.

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#405966 - 22/09/13 08:30 AM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: Slogger]
MIKE M Offline
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Registered: 22/11/04
Posts: 203
Many thanks for all the advice chaps will do as advised and get a gait check.
OK tony ,I hvn't seen Rosie in abt 10 yrs. I was one of her first customers when she opened. Knew her from her Charnwood days.
Mike M

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#405967 - 22/09/13 10:35 AM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: lightweightmick]
Slogger Offline
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Registered: 12/06/05
Posts: 2893
Loc: West Lancs.
Originally Posted By: lightweightmick
I suppose it's whatever you find works best Dave... from your earlier blogs and posts you usually go out like a light when your head hits. Is it a temporary situation


Ive not been a through sleeper for years, except for the odd occasion. These days if I nod off more or less straight away, I wake up after an hour and struggle to go back to sleep. Other times I toss and turn unable to get comfortable before finally nodding off at 3 or 4 in the morning, then wake up knacked.
I think I would have nodded off easily during my last trip even though I didn't feel that tired on the first night. The thing that prevented that was my very tender heels and toes merely touching the confines of sleeping bag fabric. Also the thin OMM single sleep mat was not comfy.
I have used the same mat before, but not noticed any discomfort because as previously said, Ive gone out like a light.
My plan for the next Spine, is to reach CP1 at Hebden Bridge, get fed and leave after an hour, take a short break at Gargrave and/or Malham, then press on to CP2 at Hawes, and hopefully be able to get some sleep there.
Dave.

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#405968 - 22/09/13 12:37 PM Re: C2C. Fast Light & Direct. [Re: Slogger]
lightweightmick Offline
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Registered: 18/11/04
Posts: 1696
Loc: North Derbyshire UK
That was the problem I had at Grisedale Tarn on my 2010 attempt. It didn't help standing around talking to the other guy camping there... my feet throbbed with every heartbeat due to the blood pooling in my lower legs and reading your description reminds me how sensitive my toes were just touching the sleeping bag...
Now I do the upside down routine. I didn't do it at the Blue Bell on last trip though (forgot) - I do wonder if it might have helped prevent that problem...
- no pun intended but just the thought of your plans sends a shudder down my spine!
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