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#71098 - 20/10/12 09:58 PM Re: The Spine Race? [Re: MIKE M]
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I mised the latest XC today as I'm still having back problems, seeing the physio again on Monday. He thinks it was down to altering my gait, running that last 5K with hamstring trouble dragging my right leg. Ive had back spasms before but never lasted this long, work doesn't make it easier.
Anyway I am confident it will improve, so today I did it, I entered the Spine Race.
Inc in the fee is a training event of 40 odd miles with some pro guides and instructors, however I have declined that as I tend to train better on my own, and will probably time myself over the first 40 odd miles from Edale to Hebden Bridge, or most likely the other way round so as to not bore myself with the route.
3 months to get fit!
Dave.

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#71295 - 22/10/12 01:27 PM Re: The Spine Race? [Re: Slogger]
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Good luck Dave.i think your best chance of success is to do a Cliff Young and forget all about sleeping.A steady 2 miles per hour should return a time of around 5-6 days.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cliff_Young_%28athlete%29

Disclaimer:Sitting here writing this is easy,getting out there and doing it is something completely different!

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#71338 - 22/10/12 09:35 PM Re: The Spine Race? [Re: tonyk]
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That's interesting Tony.
We had a local from Preston some years back who held the world non stop walking record, by walking a continueous loop round Moor Park near Deepdale, Prestons football ground. He was allowed occasional short breaks but deprived himself of sleep. That must have neen damn boring apart from all the attention he got.
My actual moving time between checkpoints on my first S - N Pennine Way was faster than last years Spine Race winners, although they had about 5 hours less daylight per day.
They had it colder, I had it wetter, really wetter.
I carried 30lbs, they carried around 18lbs and had some road support plus a transported bag.
Going off that I shouldn't be bothered about pace, it is a matter like you suggest of doing without alot of sleep, and I think I'm fairly good at that. I only get around 5 hours a night at home.
I think there is a very good chance of last years record being well broken, providing the weather is similar or better.
Just had a sack weigh, coming in at 17.5 lbs with 1.5 litres water and food. Feels light for walking but heavy for running.
My back is much improved today.
Dave.

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#71340 - 22/10/12 10:23 PM Re: The Spine Race? [Re: Slogger]
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Dave, the guy who walked around Moor Park was Lord Crawshaw,a fomer president of the LDWA.If my memory serves me right he set his record in 1972.

Here's a rather interesting clip of Cliff Young training.I certainly won't be adopting his form of footwear for training!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R9J55dEZY8&feature=relmfu

When I did a six day race back in the eighties I didn't bother to sleep for the first three days but on the fourth day felt like a zombie and the mileage went right down to around 40 miles a day.Over the first three days I had knocked up around 240 miles and felt strong.You need to get the mileage in before sleep deprivation sets in and then hang in there to the finish.The Spine race will be even harder as you have to maintain concentration all the time.On the track you can go into a robotic mode and almost drift in and out of sleep as you run.

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#71522 - 23/10/12 03:02 PM Re: The Spine Race? [Re: tonyk]
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tony k
which 6day race did you do in the 80s?

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#71554 - 23/10/12 05:09 PM Re: The Spine Race? [Re: MIKE M]
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Trentham.It was actually run on tarmac rather than a proper running track.

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#71561 - 23/10/12 05:32 PM Re: The Spine Race? [Re: tonyk]
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It's working out a strategy that's proving interesting and what I think is a must.
Don't get me wrong by my enthusiasm, I am hardly likely to win the thing, there are some good experienced ultra marathoners taking part this year, however I do love competition, and this race is quite different to other ultra's, so just about anything could happen.
Dave.

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#71719 - 24/10/12 08:03 PM Re: The Spine Race? [Re: Slogger]
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Tonyk,
Just wondered as I was involved with the 6dayers at Nottingham in the 80s
MIKEM

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#71723 - 24/10/12 08:38 PM Re: The Spine Race? [Re: MIKE M]
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Originally Posted By: MIKE M
Tonyk,
Just wondered as I was involved with the 6dayers at Nottingham in the 80s
MIKEM


Mike,I went to the six day race at Nottingham in 1982 as a spectator,think it was won by Mike Newton(?).Did you compete at Nottingham yourself?

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#71838 - 25/10/12 07:31 PM Re: The Spine Race? [Re: tonyk]
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Originally Posted By: tonyk

Dave, the guy who walked around Moor Park was Lord Crawshaw,a fomer president of the LDWA.If my memory serves me right he set his record in 1972.


Tony,the guys name is Tom Benson, he started doing these walks in 1977. However I was still in the army then and didn't come out until 1981. So it must have been in the early 80's when I saw him doing his laps during another record he set.
Not much info here, but looks like that's all that there is available:-
http://www.flickr.com/photos/georgedthompson/729721167/
Dave.

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