Les, I asked them if they had altered the Mid-sole in the shoe. Their reply is that they haven't, so I will have to persevere. I know the ones that I have had, have always required quite a bit of breaking inn.
A pal has just got a pair of these, and gives them a good report straight out of the box, so I am considering these too.
http://www.sportsshoes.com/product/hok60/hoka-tor-speed-wp-trail-running-shoes-~-aw14/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=price_comparison&utm_campaign=googlebase-uk&gclid=CjwKEAjwzqKiBRCAydTZzOLi9CISJACm3irWHxaeCVN_lSaOl8x7-mjj6rEtxE9gAO4W26ikm-V0XRoCHZbw_wcB
Dave.